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  • Relax Harry, I normally leave my contributions to online debate to a single entry or two but the response to my very brief comment led me into this discussion. You're right to say I had some connection with the writing, hence my joining in. But the connection was based on my not liking it. That's fair enough, people write pieces for sites like this in the full knowledge that they will be critiqued and that not everyone will like what they have said. If authors don't like it, they shouldn't put their writing out there. You may have noticed that I was not alone in criticising the article and so far no one has actually rebutted any of the points I have made - just complained about the way I have made them. If you disagree with the substance then go ahead and say where. I remember well being 16, but I'm not sure that it has much to do with what I wrote. Whatever poor behaviour I exhibited then - and there surely was some - my mum didn't write open letters about it to the paper or whatever media were available then. You've engaged me online without actually suggesting where I was wrong, but have you had a word with your mum re. what she publicly implied about the behaviour exhibited by you and your siblings? I gotta admit being part of this thread has been pretty enjoyable but it's probably for the best that I normally wouldn't have time to follow something like this over a couple of days - one could get sucked int pretty easily I guess. - Sly Place
 
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MUM MADE ME GO FOR COLLINGWOOD

Tonight we witness another match that plays out one of the most stubborn grudges in Australian Rules football – Collingwood vs. Carlton.

Collingwood top of the ladder. Carlton in 10th place with everything to prove. The Blue Bloods vs. The Hoi Polloi… it’s a tried-and-true recipe for a classic encounter.

Did you know the feud goes back as far as 1915? Neither did we!

Journalist and author Paul Daley tells readers of The Hoopla just what’s at stake tonight and why he loves the Magpies so… 

The author Paul Daley. Photograph by Simon Schluter via The Age.

I can scarcely remember not being a Collingwood supporter.

It was back when I was five or six and my dad would dress me in a South Melbourne guernsey and take me to the Lakeside Oval every second Saturday. My sister and my mother, meanwhile, joined a vast horde of aunts, uncles and cousins who went to Victoria Park – or wherever Collingwood played on “away” weeks – to watch the Magpies.

Eventually Dad surrendered me to the Magpies. He remained loyal for life to “South”, even after the team’s reincarnation as The Sydney Swans. I still have a soft spot for the Swans. But for me it has been Collingwood for 40 years. And so it will remain; watching Collingwood play feels like a family celebration even though we have all long since scattered to more gentrified suburbs or interstate.

Collingwood is part of my DNA.

Mum’s Dad, William Bourke, was born in Johnston Street, Collingwood. He married a girl from a tough-as-nails pub across the street called The London.

Collingwood was the poorest, roughest and most economically – and ecologically – downtrodden suburb of industrial, pre-federation Melbourne. Down on the notorious “flat” between Smith Street and the Yarra River they produced the beer, meat and tinned food, the soap and leather goods – especially the shoes – for the rest of the city. It remains a bitter irony that the suburb whose raison d’etre was to provide fine footwear for Melbourne’s wealthy could ill afford to shoe its own young.

So, the enduring visual metaphor of depression-era Collingwood remains the unshod urchin scavenging in the rubbish piles by the soupy river.

In summer, dust swallowed Collingwood’s unmade streets.

The river would stagnate with toxic tanning effluent and brewer’s waste. Then in winter the rains would sweep the offal, rubbish and sewerage down from the higher suburbs. It would settle on “The Flat” for weeks – a stinking mosquito-ridden miasma that further secured Collingwood’s reputation as home of the colony’s highest infant mortality rate.

I wrote in my book Collingwood: A Love Story, “for a major influence on its social awareness, it is hard to go past the fact that, for a good part of the year, its poorest residents effectively dwelt in the shit of the city’s richest”.

Amid that awareness the Collingwood Football Club was born in Smith Street’s Grace Darling Hotel in 1892.

There was no seconds team back then, when my grandfather began playing. But there were a series of feeder teams like “Collingwood Trades” for which William, by then a rookie boot maker, played.

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8 Responses to this article

  1. Margaret July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    That’s how it is in my family. In the blood. My Grandfather’s cousins both played for Collingwood. Albert and Harry Collier. There was just no choice in our family – Collingwood all the way. Even now that I live in NSW – my sons all came on board with the Pies. It’s a family, and a family experience. I don’t know of anything else like it.

    Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, and the history of the club.

     
  2. Michael July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    The things I could say in response to this – Mum Made Me Go For Collingwood…such obvious cruelty…

     
  3. janiemay July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    As a young, 14 yo, starry-eyed member of a rival cheer squad, I went to a game at Victoria Park in the late 70′s. I had travelled to every Melbourne suburban ground and never encountered more than typical supporter banter. Not at Victoria Park though – while we were expecting some argy bargy during the game, it was the behaviour of the Magpie fans, young and old, as we walked back to the station, that I couldn’t understand. I’m afraid I don’t have much respect for a team who have fans who would spit, hurl abuse and small missiles, and generally terrorise 3 young girls on their way home. This is the reason behind my hatred of Collingwood… and I’m sure I’m not alone.

     
  4. Beth July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Collingwood is in my families blood but we are not sure why because we come from Qld. The link was through my grandfather and he had never left Qld. The only connection we can find is some letters from his younger brother. In the 1930s he apparently lived in Melbourne for a time and wrote back regularly. He was close to my grandfather so perhaps he brought back a love for the game and a working class club would definitely have been popular with my grandfather. Now if only we could get rid of Eddie – he is such an embarrassment to our roots :)

     
    • Anne-Maree July 6, 2012 Reply
       
       

      Collingwood are the greatest team by far! My brother was born in Qld too and I in Melbourne and we love Collingwood and have followed them all our lives. I suggest you do some research on Eddie McGuire I don’t think he is an embarressment to our roots, he deserves to be where he is!

       
  5. Marnie52 July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I became a Collingwood supporter by accident. You see we arrived in Australia in 1964. I was 12 and knew nothing of footy. We lived in Maryborough in country Victoria. Shortly after our arrival, our neighbours nieces were visiting them from the city and on one boring Saturday afternoon they decided to make streamers and go down to support the local footy team at Princes Park. Well, the local team was the Maryborough Magpies, so we all dressed in black and white and came home jubilant. I didn’t like footy much (still don’t) but it seemed everywhere I lived after that, people wanted to know who I barracked for. I quickly realised that every league had a black and white team so I would simply say “the good old black and whites” and they would tell me who it was “Oh not Port! (or Collingwood or Maryborough etc)” It got me out of no end of trouble and I really didn’t mind the ribbing because I had no idea what they were talking about. So there you have it. An accidental Collingwood supporter by default.

     
  6. Margaret July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Sorry you had that experience Janiemay. I had a similar experience with another team when I was about 12. I had been to a game with my brother and we were unlucky to be in a carriage on the train with a bunch of Richmond supporters. We had to escape the carriage and catch another train – so I can honestly say, that sort of thing happens with many of the hard core original teams. That’s not to say that it is a good thing, because it is appalling. At the games I have been at over the last couple of years, I have found the behaviour a lot better, and that goes for all teams of supporters.

     

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