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GILLARD ENDURES. AGAIN.

What a joke. Consider this madness.

Simon Crean pulled the trigger for a leadership spill.

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd choked on the doorstep of the caucus room before the meeting and declared he would not challenge.

Julia Gillard saw off another lunge from the Ruddites and remains Prime Minister.

 

gilpostJulia Gillard at a press conference after the unopposed leadership ballot

Senior Labor members managed to trash the brand even further. Crean was sacked from Cabinet immediately.

A party with a formidable history has become an ill-disciplined rabble and Tony Abbott seems assured of getting the keys to the Lodge.

After a spill, in which Julia Gillard was the only nomination for leader, chief whip Joel Fitzgibbon had the temerity to say it was “a time for healing”.

This is the same bloke who set the dogs barking, talking about the leadership rumblings, urging, urging, running press conferences down the hallways of the press gallery. Chaos appeared to reign.

At the same time one of the great moments in politics, the apology on forced adoptions, was derailed. Effectively the leadership plotters told 250,000 victims of this “brutal and often illegal” policy – as Gillard called it – that they were less important than personal ambitions.

Late yesterday, Julia Gillard spoke to the media. You couldn’t even say she looked relieved. She simply carried on as she has done for the past three years. Hard nosed. Not giving much away. She kept it short because, she said, there was much work to be done.

“I am grateful to colleagues for their continuing support of me,” she said. “I accept their support with a sense of deep humility and resolve.

“I have only ever sought office in the interests of the nation. It is in that spirit I intend to govern.”

She said she would get on with Labor’s agenda on jobs, national broadband, disability care, helping families through stresses and strains and ensuring every child gets a world class education.

“This is the purpose for which we govern. Today the leadership has been settled in conclusive fashion. It has ended now.”

At his press conference, Tony Abbott begged to differ.

“Nothing is resolved. The civil war goes on.”

He said Australians were being let down by a bad government getting worse.

“It doesn’t have to be this way. It doesn’t have to be as bad as this. I am saying to the Australian people, you deserve a government that is focused on you, not on itself. The Coalition is ready.”

Labor has made sure of that.

 

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*Gabrielle Chan is The Hoopla’s political correspondent. She is a journalist and author with more than 25 years experience, having worked most recently as a regular columnist with The Australian. She has previously worked for The Daily Telegraph, the ABC and the South China Morning Post. Gabrielle has written and edited Flickers of History, War On Our Doorstep and FEAST and is a member of the NSW Anzac Advisory Council. She blogs at www.gabriellechan.com and you can follow her on Twitter: @gabriellechan.

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112 Comments

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Josie

    If the men of the Labor Party get their hands off their d**ks for a moment, and pull their self destructive egos into line, they CAN actually win the next election. Anyone still hellbent on shoring up their future shadow ministries need to be taken aside and threatened with loss of preselection and whipped into line. Starting with the Government Whip. And the oh so innocent sociopathic member for Griffith.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      lucille

      Absobloodylutely.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    ro.watson

    This is a minority government which secured confidence on the floor of the House Of Representatives. That means Labor won the last election. There is no civil war. Chaos is part of life. I do not agree with your analysis, Gabrielle that the government has created chaos.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Dianne

    My goodness what a woman. I would want her on my side in a tight spot. She makes some of the men around her and across the floor look like sissies.

    • Reply March 21, 2013

      Gee

      Actually, Bolt and Alan Jones LOVED her at first. It was only after about the fifth clusterf**** that they woke up to themselves.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    sue Bell

    I agree with you Ro, maybe Gabrielle needs to go back to school and learn just how we are governed in Australia. As leader of the party that holds the confidence of the lower house
    Gillard won the last election. MSM (especially Andrew Bolt) need to shut their mouths and look at policy. By the way where is the condemnation of the disgraceful behaviour of Christopher Pyne in parliament yesterday?
    As a relinquishing mother I am saddened that the apology was so overshadowed.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Lisa

    Noticing too that none of Julia Gillard’s female Labor colleagues felt the need to weigh in to the nonsense – why is it that the men feel that this is a constructive way to govern?? What a waste of time and energy. As if Labor needed any further destabilisation!

    • Reply March 21, 2013

      Gee

      Good afternoon, how is everyone in LaLa Land? What a day! For the record, I’m glad she survived. I don’t believe in euthanasia. Let the death rattles continue until nature takes it course.

      • Reply March 22, 2013

        Matilda

        Now @Gee, I’m all for voluntary euthanasia, but it your case I think I’d even check the involuntary euthanasia in your box.

        You obviously would like bear the love children of Andrew Bolt (the gutless wonder who racially vilified aboriginals) and Alan Jones (who fanned the flames of the Cronulla riots). It was alleged that Alan was arrested in an underground public toilet on Broadwick Street in the Soho area of London, so you may need to use a turkey baster.

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  • Reply March 21, 2013

    carole/m

    Can anyone actually believe Joel Fitzgibbon has skulked off & hasn’t even got the balls to resign.

    Simon Crean , have no idea what got into him.

    But , guess what ,the media are straight back into , as someone calls it , Leadershit .
    wait for it ,

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    carole/m

    Song for JG ….

    Hit me with your best shot
    Why don’t ya
    Hit me with ya best shot
    Hit me with ya best shot
    Fire awayyyy

    Pat Benatar – from somewhere in the 80s

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Rhoda

    Well from where I sit the day has been a disaster for the Labor Party but a win for our PM – and I don’t mean she came out on top. Her demeanour is one of a leader. At least in front of the cameras. But… Kevin Rudd needs to get lost now. He should stop popping up on my tv screen. And I am disappointed that Bob Carr and Bill Shorten weren’t there. They didn’t want anyone taking notes. Makes me curious. But it’s up to the Labor Party itself now to put this behind them and let their elected leader lead. I hope the Independents are on board as well.

    Gabrielle, you’re on the money far as I’m concerned. Totally get where you’re coming from.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    carole/m

    Think Bob Carr was overseas.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Rhoda

    Oh yes he was overseas – convenient.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      Lindy

      Don’t be ridiculous he has just made a speech to yhe UN and surprise of al;l he is the foreign minister and had stated his support for our PM

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    ro.watson

    Meanwhile~ sue bell, I feel for you and other “relinquishing” mothers whose day was trounced by this hullaballoo. Another women’s issue set aside. I also feel for the kids who lost contact with their mums and hope ,with the newish laws you make contact and get your relinquishment had little to do with you, and more to do with your mums having no support to raise you.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Bella

    Yes, it is unfortunate it has given ammunition to the LNP. And as a child adopted in 1960’s who has not been able to make contact with my mother, I too thought it a great shame that the focus was on this in the MSM rather than the apology. I hope that the Ruddites and KR do pull their heads in once and for all and Labor focuses on their message and showing why they should be re-elected. Will the MSM focus on policies of both sides now?

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    janet

    Oh Mr Hart, what a mess. There are some people in the rude camp that need to pull their head in and focus on the job they are paid to do. God forbid we get stuck witha)bottom

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Marley Matheson

    So sad that the party politics today overshadowed such an important day for relinquishing (reluctantly) mothers, and for so many of their children. Where wee the minds of politicians that they chose to disrupt and demean this event. Where were the minds of journalists who happily tossed the event into the waste paper basket on the basis of a leadership spill! Lord, what could be more important. And in the event of the whole thing being a total fizzer, how many journalists then clung to the remnants and rehashed the whole ridiculous thing for hours on any form of media available. Shame on the lot of you!

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Wendy

    What was Rudd up to? A disgrace. His comments about a challenge were with reservations ” if position of PM was vacant ” did they think she would resign! I am appalled at how Australia is treating this woman. Not only the opppsition! All comments are personal. We are obviously not ready for a female leader. Disgraceful behaviour

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      lucille

      I agree wholeheartedly. Rudd and his cronies have been white anting Julie since she got the top job. The leaking and talking behind her back has been unforgivable. She should’ve kicked out the MEN who undermined her the first time instead of showing compassion. They probably were the ones who advised her badly. I am so disappointed in Christine Milne and Adam Bandt for suggesting that Abbott would be the only winner and that they have given the Libs a leg up. Who do I vote for now? Can’t vote ALP until they allow same sex marriage. Help ….

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    Sonya

    I have the greatest respect for this woman.

  • Reply March 21, 2013

    xiaoecho

    The press were like a pack of baying dogs today, sniffing the blood they had been anticipating for weeks. The Apology was not derailed, it went ahead and The Prime Minister delivered it magnificently. The Apology had no less meaning and was no less sincere because disloyal representatives put their self interest before the National Interest a few hours later

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    MicheleS

    Where has ‘respect’ gone? Call me old fashioned, but regardless of anyone’s personal political belief the Hon member for Lalor, Ms Julia Gillard, is the Prime Minister of this country and as such should be treated with (including spoken and written about) respect.
    I am totally and utterly fed to the back teeth with all the narcissistic drivel and chatter that passes for journalism these days. Would the media return to reporting the news, please. I do not want to hear anyone’s opinion ever again. Just give me the facts and allow me to make my own decision.
    Kudos to ABC broadcaster Rod Quinn for declaring his Overnights program early today a politics-free zone. A breath of fresh air that deserves to become a permanent trend.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    OscarJones

    Josie you got it wrong, You should have said :”If the men of the MEDIA get their hands off their d**ks for a moment, and pull their self destructive egos into line,”.

    I’m disappointed Gabrielle hasn’t identified the manipulations of the media whose pursuit of the PM and promotion of a Rudd challenge has been relentless, day in and day out.
    In my 66 years I have never seen such partisan negativity towards an elected government of any persuasion in this country. It should disturb everyone.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      NarelleM

      Spot on there OscarJones.

      In my 59 years I too have never seen such treachery and treason towards a fairly elected PM.

      Yes to date all PM’s have been male; gender is obviously something Murdoch and the MSM can not deal with at all. It’s a very bad look for the 21st century.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    JoanneH

    Kevin Rudd should be exiled to a desert Island with Peter Costello – two sooky, gutless, egocentrics together.

    If Kevin had accepted his loss last February, behaved with the dignity that Ted Baillieu showed, and not spent all his energies wooing the media and convincing disloyal Labor MPs to do his dirty work, Julia and Labor would be well ahead in the polls. Now that Rudd has almost destroyed the Labor Party he may as well join the Liberals – he does so well in their preferred PM polls.

    What a fighter Julia is; fighting on three fronts at the same time Rudd, Abbott, and the media, and she fearlessly stares them all down!!

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      Myrna

      Thanks for this piece of pithy sensible reporting; Hoopla is a welcome new source of news and comment. There are some excellent comments here as well. JoanneH, I heartily agree with every word you wrote.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Alex

    Yes Oscar Jones you’re right. It’s not just the right wing press either. Fair fax and the ABC sing from the same song sheet now. No reporting what the government actually does and endless commentary bagging Julia Gillard personally.

    I can understand that men who are old lefties are failing to cope with a woman prime minister ( not looking at Bob Ellis Philip Adams or anyone) but the shamelessness of the coverage is breathtaking. Peter Hartcher should join the resignation-fest that today will be. He has used the Sydneymorni g Herald as a platform to reinstate Rudd ever since Gillard became leader. He’s made no pretence of reporting. Why is Fairfax continuing to pay him?

    Political coverage is so irelevant to what’s actually happening that I’ve given up on all of it. Lateline 7.30 report PM and all.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Sandy Gandhi

    After backstabbing the PM endlessly, dishonourable behaviour personified, the very same blokes are now resigning from their ministries (if they haven’t been sacked already), stating it’s the honourable thing to do – as the old adage goes, they wouldn’t know honour if it slapped them in the face with a wet fish!
    And that goes ditto for the meddling MEDIAOCRITY – you know who you are.
    Here’s a a bit of old fashioned SMS for the MSM – POQ & DCB!!!
    Sandy Gandhi

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Bella

    The MSM definitely got what they have been wishing for and writing about for, oh, nearly three years. They are still speculating today, after the event. I realise there has been fuel to it, but its a matter of prioritising what surely must be par for the course in Canberra, its politics after all. You can’t tell me the Liberals all love each other. All things do not have the same weight or importance, until they actually become a reality. Can’t they turn their minds to analysis of policies, or lack of viable policies as the case may be, even some insight into the vested interests that are influencing what is going on?

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    lou51

    Maybe Julia should have directed her “Misogyny Speech” at her own party. With all the goings on amongst themselves – who is running the Country??
    What the Labour Party “Power Brokers” have missed is that it is NOT the Leader that Australians have lost faith in – it is Labour Policies.
    We have seen so many Policies rushed through Parliament – Insulation, School Halls – rorted and failed.Two failed Policies to stem the flow of boat people. All of these Policies costing millions and millions of dollars. Basic hardworking Australians, struggling to live day to day resent this.
    Add to this the Carbon Tax, which we were promised would not be implemented now adding dollars to a “Basic Commodity”.
    Add to that cutting single Parents Pension – surely this should have been “fazed” in and these people offered Education so that they might have a chance of finding a job.
    We need Media Regulation reform, but not drafted one week and expect to be Passed the next – one can not help feeling they wanted it to fail.
    We need a Government to stop “rushing”, Australians need to be able to relax – not be worrying about the Government and what they are going to do next.
    The ONE thing they have not rushed is the date of the next election. So we have to live with all this “carry on” for now and the next 6 months.
    Goodness knows what this is doing to Australia’s Economic stability – “Big Business” halting development, Overseas Investment?
    Call the Election now – whoever wins just “Govern Our beautiful Country”, and let us get back to or lives and worrying about the next bill in the post box and NOT about “Chaos” in Canberra.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      NarelleM

      lou51,

      You must be watching and listening to another country’s politics and parliament. Either that or you, like Gabrielle Chan, swallow the crap the MSM and LNP sling at us 24/7.

      Julia Gillard as Joanne/H said, is fighting on 3 fronts, Abbott, Rudd and the MSM, and staring each and everyone of them down. Abbott is so bloody lame and stupid, still chucking that wobbly over not getting the Independents to back him in 2010. What a strong and powerful woman JG is and she’ll be even tougher with all the Ruddites out of cabinet now.

      Simon Crean, no doubt had a dream he could be Deputy PM (he was not good at being LOTO, must have thought Deputy PM would be a walk in the park!). I seriously feel he may have caused the spectre of his old dad to spit some chips after that fiasco. Time for Simon to retire next election me thinks.

      Can’t beleive Gabrielle and others here are talking JG down re Sept 14. She will win, Abbott will probably do a Howard and lose his seat and JG will not need the dippy Greens to form government.

      Geez Christine Milne and Julie Bishop look like dopplegangers for each other. Same whinging whining tone, same ‘no one has better policies than us’ craperooni. Makes me want to scream from the rooftops – ‘Praise be to the lord that JG is on the ALP team!’

      The MSM and indeed EVERY member of the media – yes Gabrielle that includes you – have lost the plot. They want friction, civil war, anything that will turn our great nation on it’s head and bring a recession in. Havoc creates good headlines! Just as the MSM attempted to bring in havoc yesterday.

      I was in Canberra yesterday and sensed something was about to move. Got back to motel and stayed tuned from 1:30pm, saw Crean do his little Rumba and thought , he’s dreaming, surely. MSM drove the whole thing until the PM announced spill at 4:30, and then directed Abbott to ‘give me you best shot’. What a woman. However, not satisfied that they were not calling the shots, the MSM kept attempting to predict outcomes. I’m so disgusted NO ONE addressed Abbott and Bishop over their undignified treacherous attack on the PM though.

      JG is the best PM we have had since Whiltam’s early days ( he lost the plot a bit, mostly due to cabinet members he could not contain); and then of course Keating was just hitting his straps when John Howard and Tim Fisher continued with their whiteant tactic of ‘arrogant PM, arrogant govt’. Abbott is doing the same with ‘dysfunctional, bad government, dysfunctional PM’. But the mindless MSM et al will soak it up and spin it, wet or dry, they’ll just spin, spin, spin.

      Keep your eyes on the PM people, after the budget, things are going to soar for her and the ALP, mark my words.

    • Reply March 23, 2013

      Rosie

      lou 51: Further to your statement re Parents’ Payment (it was NOT a pension) do you not remember the Howard Government with Costello as Treasurer cancelling the Widows’ Pension? This was 16 years ago and was quietly slipped in on Budget night. It did not affect those already on it but anyone becoming a widow from then on was put immediately on the Dole. The Press didn’t even bother with it but for many older Australian women, many of whom had not worked for many years, it meant immediate poverty. So don’t talk to me about an Abbott led Government!

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    carole/m

    JoanneH. – spot on

    Sandy Gandhi. – yo

    Channel 9 news again calling the PM-she.
    Rang & made a complaint .

    Any more disrespect that I see / hear , I intend to complain / complain / complain.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      NarelleM

      Great carole/m, thought I was the only one complaining to the MSM over their disrespect for our PM.

      Thanksfully have also got a few more friends doing the same.

      We have to stand up for our first female PM. Otherwise all young girls will believe misongyny rules and women can’t do the tough jobs!

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    carole/m

    Lou51.

    A pity your comment is riddled with lies,

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Rosie

    lou 51: Policies rushed through Parliament? Rubbish. The Insulation and School Halls bills were not rushed and, for your information, they are two of the things that got us through the Global Financial Crisis. You don’t speak for me – I do NOT resent those policies. Every time I pass a school, Public or Private, I see knew buildings at EVERY school – something that never happened under Howard. Hundreds of thousands of people had their homes insulated. Yes, some private contractors cheated their fellow Australians – human nature at its worst. But you cannot blame the Government for the crimes of some private contractors. As for the tired old argument about the Carbon Tax – firstly, if you care for future generations you will approve it; secondly, Gillard said there would not be a Carbon Tax before the result of a hung Parliament. She then stated that policies would have to differ to gain the support of the Independants and Greens – the same as Abbott said! The cutting of the Single Parents Payment – you obviously don’t know that many of these people were working at least 15 hours a week anyway but needed the extra to stay alive. I do agree with you that it should never have been taken away – but do not think for a moment that all these parents were not trying to supplement that Payment anyway. Many of them are good people who have found themselves in bad circumstances and need all of our help.

    If you are advocating a switch to Abbott – you are also approving the sacking of 20,000 Public Servants, the cancellation of the Schoolkids Bonus, The limiting of the dole for the unemployed to six months only and the further limiting of the dole to over 30 year olds only. Heaven help anyone in your family or friends group who become unemployed. Oh yes – the NBN will not be fed into your home by the Government – you will pay for that! These will be some of Abbott’s policies.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    JoanneH

    Lou51….I am sure even you know that the BER had to be brought in quickly because the Global Financial Crisis was bearing down on Australia, and the Government had to protect jobs, and avoid the soul destroying misery of having large numbers of people being on the dole.

    The BER provided employment for at least 120,000 tradies who otherwise would have been on the dole. Tradies that did not work on the BER had less competition for domestic construction projects. They prospered too.
    These people had wives and families. Their families needed food and clothing. Their utes needed tyres, petrol and servicing. They purchase tools and consumables like concrete, nails, wood, bricks, paint, steel, gyprock and industrial gas.
    They went to the movies. They saw doctors. They took holidays. They bought their lunches at the local hamburger joint.
    The money they earned – which in many cases they otherwise would not have had – went to these businesses, which in turn bought their own supplies, continuing the circulation of money.
    These business employed workers too. Each retail transaction attracted GST. Each wage earner paid tax. This money was returned to the taxpayers of Australia.

    Just as in all large Government or other commercial projects there was some waste and rorting, but the Interdependent Taskforce only received complaints in respect of 254 schools; approximately 2.7% of ALL SCHOOLS involved in the BER program. Of course the media and the Coalition never mentioned those facts while they were screaming, Chaos, failure etc.

    All the schools near me are more than happy with what they received,on time and well built, and the local LIBERAL Member has tried to take some credit for them in the District Press.
    Several schools received halls which are used for Community activities and they make a handy income through being hired out.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Mrs pops

    Remember the Turnbull, Hockey tussle? The third candidate won by one vote! His name is tony Abbott. There’s always leadership tussles in a govt. Howard, Hawke experienced their own. What I got out of yesterday was a wonderful bipartisan apology to those who had their children falsely adopted, the final passage of the legislation for the set up on the national disability insurance scheme and that Rudd is dead dead dead. Yippee glad to see the treacherous underminers outed and moved on.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    carole/m

    Rosie. / JoanneH

    Way to go girls.

    I looked at Lou51 & thought OMG I don’t have the strength to go through all those false claims , after yesterday I’m a little drained. So pleased, you both nailed it.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      Rosie

      carole/m – high five.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Sam stanwell

    This has no impact on business tony Shepherd. I took Latham’s advice and read the RBA reports on the economy which was outstanding.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    lucille

    Short and sweet (?). Count the number of women who have been deposed in political leadership positions – all of them. We live in a misogynistic society in this country, and the fact that Julia has survived in the boys’ club is a miracle. If Mr Rabbit does succeed, his 2IC won’t survive. But God help us (I’m an atheist) if he does.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    carole/m

    Yes Mrs Pops.

    Abbott was also the third leader in a very short time. Nelson /
    Turnbull / Abbott .

    Also two treasurers , the truly incompetent ,Julie Bishop , way out of her depth & Joe Hockey , whose first response to the Budget , at the Press Club was a complete farce , as was Abbotts in the Parliament.
    Neither had a clue . As you may have noticed at the 2010 election they hired a company to fudge their costings , Hockey & Robb standing together looking like a couple of used car salesman. (lying through their teeth)0

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      Rosie

      carole/m – It is such a pity that most people don’t remember all this stuff.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    OscarJones

    You are correct Lucille.
    Whatever the outcome in September I am proud that Australia had it’s first female Prime Minister and one that actually achieved things.
    If we still have the NBN & NDIA in 2014, it will because of her.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    carole/m

    Have to admit though Gabrielle Chan , the MSM got it right , I guess if you keep writing the same story for 12 months , you’ve gotta get it right
    eventually.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    janet

    self fulfilling prophecy

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    R

    Julia is so very durable. She has more cojones than the rest of the blokes put together. What I have yet to decipher if the polarization she inspires is based on the position of PM, her as a person, how she is leading or because she is a woman and scares the willies (literally) off the men in parliament.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    janet

    Oh my God! They didn’t get their way, so they schemed and white anted and leaked. Another self pitying sooky sooky la la has just resigned. These blokes need to have a look around, see how fortunate they are and do the bloody job they have been elected and paid to do. What an utter disgrace.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    helen b

    They’re falling like ninepins! Interesting to see the new line up. This could be just what JG needs…fresh blood with some real backing from those who hold a united vision and common purpose.

    • Reply March 23, 2013

      Lindy

      I’m looking forward to the new ministers, I am predicting that they will be young, energetic and proud of our Prime Minister, I know that I am. Good riddance to all the white anters, they now have a sooky bub for their leader and I wish them well. Barry Cassidy was spot on when he said that they were willing to tear the Government down to get their way and I saw Crean’s first interview where he stated that he supported the leader and then a little later called for the PM to call a spill or he would get a petition up to force her… sucked in Crean. Isn’t she marvelous, wow I even joined the Labor Party, have never done anything like that before and it probably won’t make a difference to anything but it made me feel that I am supporting her.

      • Reply March 29, 2013

        Heather

        I joined the Labor Party too for the first time ever.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    cheryle g

    The Libs and the MSM, controlled by their media bosses who have their own adenda, kept putting it out there that there would be a spill as nobody was happy with JG. They kept saying it and saying it until someone in the Labor party believed all the press. That person was SC. Now we know who is the preferred leader of the Labor Party and it won’t be dragged out again.
    To watch TA in parliment is to see someone who is a little deranged… Add Chris Pyne and his antics and you couldn’t vote for them.
    Once again Chan you have to be pulled up and not just by me this time…

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Narelle Matheson

    That would be good to see, Helen b. Maybe Simon Crean had the right idea after all. Flush out the rubbish, clean sweep, with renewed energy for the rough months ahead. I do hope so. Our Prime Minister truly deserves it!

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Sandy Gandhi

    Gosh, the white ants are dropping like flies – is there any truth to the rumour there’s a new insecticide on the market called Mr Crean?
    Hopefully the residual itchy-scratchies will subside soon and the PM can get on with the job.
    As for the Ruddinator, he says he won’t be back – with a bit of luck, he’ll now zip it, good and proper.
    Sandy Gandhi

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Judy Frazer

    What a woman! I agree she is constantly under attack, but continues to do the job and maintain equilibrium. I agree with Joanne H, re Rudd and have lost respect for him. Politics is rough, and more so for a strong woman. The media are not blameless any more than are the schemers in the Party. If we looked at the PM’s achievements, reported, and discussed them maybe we would not have this current mess. Eg, Disabilty!! The wonderful Apology to those affected by forced adoption, etc..

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Mary

    I wonder what they will do (both parties) if Julia wins the Sept election. It would certainly shake them up, hopefullly enough to shut up and get on with what they are elected to do.
    And hopefully we won’t have to be subjected to continual muckranking fom the media or backstabbers about either side.
    I know, that last bit is just dreaming…sigh…

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Matilda

    The real skunks in the piece are Fairfax ‘commentators’ like Mark Kenny, who are so far up Tony Abbott’s backside they surely all find it hard breath.

    The Fairfax liars stirred up the leadership rumble by quoting anonymous Labor sources. Kenny subjected Gillard to unrelenting attack, indicating that she had lost the support of the majority of the caucus. Was he just spreading lies or did he have another motive? Given the paucity of numbers against the Prime Minister, it was clearly a lie, reflecting the pro-Abbott stance of the Fairfax rabble who are an insult to real journalists.

    To see a commentary on how Australia’s economy is going and reflecting on the cult of whinging greedy Australians -that you will never see in the rancid and fetid Australian press, including the ABC – have a look at:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/21/australians-julia-gillard

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    lucille

    I have to take the dogs out early today. I nearly threw my laptop at the box. Watching Ferguson on Sky. Bloody hell, he is coming across as holier than thou. Does he really think we believe his standing down from the cabinet is for the good of the party. PLEASE! Crean did the same thing when he resigned. They are all sooks, and I don’t believe for a minute they are giving up their parliamentary cabinet allowance for the good of the party. They are just jumping before they are pushed. No actors awards for these creeps. C’mon babies, we’re off to the park, and if anyone questions me in this off lead part I’ll go through them.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    carole/m

    Actually MATILDA , I think he’s sold his arse to Rupert , probably a signed contract giving him exclusive rights.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    LORRAINE COLLOPY

    I continue to be bewildered by the hate and destructive behaviour from The Labor back room boys and the media,what has the Prime Minister ever done to deserve this treatment???
    and what a remarkable person she is,most people would have been reduced to tears{look at Kev when he was ousted} she is so strong,I think her chances of winning are great! because of her determined gutsy approach the public will surely see what a bonus she is to australia!!!

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Geoffrey

    Gee………… you may not agree with other voters’ comments on this site but you don’t have to be rude and dismissive of others’ beliefs. Nor do you have to resort to cheap epithets or sarcasm.
    Put simply you are little more than brat and if you were part of my family you would have had your mouth washed out with soap and sent to your room by now.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    devuman

    Gosh, look at all the good things Labor is doing for ordinary citizens at the moment – Child Care folk support, Apologies to forced adoption folk and the like. All the sudden pandering for popularity on borrowed money – could there be an election in the offing perchance?

    Let’s face it, History won’t be kind to headmistress Julia or negative Tony.

    When will we get a political leader who can assume the mantle of Statesman/woman? These leadership crews on both sides are all amateurs and an embarrassment to Australia in the world context!

    Come back Menzies or Hawke! Or even Billy Hughes, dammit!

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    NarelleM

    devuman,

    What’s the point of writing the crap you’ve written. If your life is that bloody good mate, take it elsewhere, because you, sure as hell are not welcome here.

    What an idiot you are.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    margaret

    Maintain the rage girls/ Love reading the comments.Agree with so many.Tony Delroy didn’t come out of it so well last night. He is loosing brownie points fast for allowing callers through with their rude comments re JG .I don’t want my son to model on the behavoir 0f TA and CP.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Jenny

    I think JG took the path she did in order to try and stop the chaos which was already happening – mostly thanks to the media. If they didn’t keep hammering away about the leadership we probably wouldn’t give it a moment’s thought! If they can settle things down now, they might stand a chance in the election – but for godneee’ sake don’t go to the election ahead of time!

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    lou51

    To all my critics – I never buy Newspapers, however I am an avid “Question time” watcher – as my email buddy ( 2 speakers ago) Harry Jenkins will attest to!
    The other source I never miss every week is ABC “Q & A” – where people of all political persuasions ask questions of the Panel – which usually has Members of the different Political Parties.
    I like to think I have age and wisdom on my side – to weigh up my own mind.
    As far as the GFC – you forgot the “record prices” for Iron Ore and Coal prices – 2007 until Sept 2012 and Oct 2012 respectively, mainly to China. Also how much money has come into Australia buying farms,Business’s and or real estate since 2007.
    As far as my “lies” – do a bit of ” unbiased ” homework and find out how successful these policies were – and I do not mean reading propaganda from any Political Party.
    As far as Prime Minister Julia Gillard is concerned she is the Prime Minister – our first woman Prime Minister.
    My comment about Prime Minister Julia Gillards “Misogyny Speech” was made to a man – whose job is to get his Party into power. The men of the caucus who tried so desperately yesterday to have her loose her position are supposed to be on her side – does no one see the “irony”.

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      Rosie

      lou 51: You really have not added any information in your comment. Do you not remember the Howard/Costello leadership fiasco which went on for a couple of years. Will Costello have a go or not???? Do you not realise that Abbott won the latest leadership battle by one vote and that was because Fran Bailey was ill and could not obtain a proxy vote (she would have supported Turnbull). Abbott had, the day before sunk the boot into Hockey’s leadership hopes. Turnbull was being rolled because he wanted to support an Emissions Trading Scheme (not Liberal policy) but he was already tainted because of his appalling behaviour in the Godwin Grech affair.

      Q and A is, in my opinion, a rubbish show where the politicians pontificate and glory in the applause (Pyne is a good example). It is an ego boost for Politicians with a set-up audience of fairly equal political proportions. Each Politician trying to outdo each other with smart statements. Very poor quality show.

      As far as your comments re land sales to overseas interests and prices for coal and iron ore – you have presented no facts at all – just general statements off the top of your head. You will have to do better than that .

    • Reply March 22, 2013

      Matilda

      Actually Lou51, I’d borrow some of your buddy Tony Abbott’s words – you are confused between irony and ironing.

      Paul Keating has quite rightly likened ABC TV’s Q&A program to the Punch and Judy show, saying he wouldn’t be seen dead on it. He added: “If you go on Tony Jones’s [show] you need a hip flask of mace.”

      As to someone who might get their political information from Q&A, even Punch would laugh.

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    Val S

    Interesting to read the article in the Guardian re the leadership speculation (guardian.co.uk). “While the rest of the world lurches from crisis to economic crisis, the land of Oz is powering ahead, enjoying an Aussie dollar at a record high, unemployment at near-record lows (5.4%) and basking in more sunshine than the rest of us can dream up. So what does its Labor government do? Attempt suicide.
    Yesterday’s “coup” against Australia’s Labor prime minister Julia Gillard by Kevin Rudd, the man she herself beat for the prime ministership in 2010, was the third failed attempt of her mandate. In the past 10 years, the Australian Labor party has installed and dispatched five national leaders while its nemesis, the Liberal party, has tried four different leaders in just six years.
    Viewed from Europe, where national governments are planning to bail out their banks by raiding the savings accounts not just of Russian oligarchs but pensioners too, news of yet another political attack against Australia’s leader smacks of a particular strain of antipodean madness. For decades, it is the British who have worn the “whingeing Poms” label. Now, it’s time for Australians to accept the malcontents’ mantle, because it is they who appear incapable of seeing just how lucky they are.”
    Couldn’t agree more. It’s worth checking out the whole article

  • Reply March 22, 2013

    serin

    They have turned our vote into the status of a “Big Brother” nomination. All power to Ms Gillard she does conduct herself in a way that at least commands respect. Rudd I am afraid sips fromt he cup of sour grapes.

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    lou51

    Rosie
    The end of Widow Pensions: 1987 to 2006

    The Hawke Government commenced a complete recasting of widow and sole parent payments in 1987 with the phasing out of Widow B Pension (WidB). Changing perceptions about the role of women and increases in the workforce participation of older women were beginning to make the payment redundant. A phasing-out period of 15 years for new claimants was provided for in the expectation that this would prevent any adverse consequences for older widows. However, the employment situation of older women deteriorated during the recession of the early 1990s. This prompted the announcement in 1994 of a Widow Allowance for women widowed after the age of 50 years with little workforce experience, as a means of reducing the impact of the phasing-out of WidB.

    In 1989 the Widow C Pension (WidC) was renamed Widowed Person Allowance and eligibility was extended to widowers as well as widows both de jure and de facto. In 1994 this new payment was renamed Bereavement Allowance.

    In 2006 Widow Allowance was closed to new claimants unless they had been born on or before 1 July 1955.

    The demise of the various widow payments marked the end of a transition from payments for ‘respectable’ widows with a few categories of ‘less respectable’ sole parents hidden under the umbrella term widow pension, to payments based on the objective fact of recent death of a partner.

    • Reply March 23, 2013

      Rosie

      lou 51: When you lift information from an Internet site you should acknowledge where you got it from otherwise you can be accused of plagiarism. Your information does not in any way alter what I stated: that it was the Howard Government with Costello as Treasurer that ceased the Widows’ Pension.

      • Reply March 23, 2013

        lou51

        Yes – you are probably correct I should have put the source, below is a link.
        http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-2013/SSPaymentsUnemployment#_Toc342384836

      • Reply March 23, 2013

        lou51

        Yes, you are probably correct Rosie – I should have disclosed my source – aph gov library.

        • Reply March 24, 2013

          Rosie

          lou 51: Good that you disclosed your source. It was quite easy to see where it came from but you still do not get my point. It was the Howard/Costello Government that cancelled the Widows” Pension – that is a point you cannot deny and will be remembered forever by a lot of families who were completely unprepared for it. You see, a lot of people do not know when they will become widows.

          • March 24, 2013

            lou51

            Sorry Rosie I do not agree – this Government Document states clearly the Hawke Government started the phasing oou of the widows pension – to be over 15 years – so as not to make “older Widows” feel betrayed when they were put on single parent payment. 1987 + 15 years = 2002.
            The Howard Government left it an extra 4 years = 19 years -2006 the Howard Government closed the Widow payment to any NEW claimants unless they were born before July 1955. The rest went to Single Parenting payments as was the Hawke Governments plan.
            This single parenting payment now has been removed for some parents – as I said in my original statement – it should have been phased in – over a number of years to give parents an opportunity – to maybe have an offer of education etc to be employable and or get better jobs – but no they did not even get 6 months notice.
            I am sorry but I do not see this as right.

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    anne louise

    http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/ a set of testicles, anyone?

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    carole/m

    Yes Rosie & there’s lots more nasty stuff that people don’t remember ( or are not old enough to know) about the Howard Government.

    When I’ve got more time I’ll write more.

    No increase to the Aged Pension in 12 years except for CPI is one I can remember.

    Howards handouts to buy elections were to middle & upper class & big. business , his theory was that economic benefits would “trickle down” to the less well off , otherwise known as
    ” PISSING ON THE POOR”.

    • Reply March 24, 2013

      Rosie

      carole/m: I thought most people had forgotten the aged pension one: No increase in 12 years except the CPI. Bang! Increase of $100 a fortnight by Rudd in the Global Financial Crisis! Gave Pensioners spending power and pride! Good one carole/m for reminding people. We will never see anything like that under Abbott. In fact he is talking of no Dole for under 30’s and six months maximum on the Dole. And this from one of the wealthiest countries in the world. More middle-class welfare for things like private health subsidies perhaps?

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    carole/m

    Thanks for the link Anne Louise , what a great article . At last someone who doesn’t just follow all the other ” bloody sheep”.

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    devuman

    NarelleM – struck a nerve have I?

    Go wash out your mouth and stand in the naughty corner.

    Sadly I repeat, neither JG nor TA are up to the standard we require of people leading our country – as history will confirm.

    No NarelleM, *you* are the idiot!

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    JoanneH

    The Kevin Rudd I saw yesterday at his Press interview looked nearly as bad as Abbott. However I don’t think Abbott is intelligent enough to be as devious as ‘Kev – The Anointed One’ It is amusing to think that John Howard got done over by someone more devious and rat-cunning than himself!

    I was hoping to hear a little humility, a smidgeon of an apology- for all his months of white-anting, and warmer than usual support for Prime Minister Julia. Instead there he was (with a smarmy look on his face) lamenting the fact that so many of his colleagues – who he had managed to dupe into following him- had lost their jobs, and somehow make it sound as if it was nothing to do with him, so it must be Julia’s fault?

    As usual the journalists lapped up all his insincerity, and only one had the guts to ask if he took any responsibility, and he quickly sidestepped that. It is reported today that Chris Mitchell, editor of The Australian and Rudd were in contact a lot last week – probably about the weather?

    He ended the interview with his now excruciating “got to zip”, gave the cameras another ‘Rock star’ smile, and was off, looking as if he didn’t have a care in the world.

    Rudd has betrayed his followers, his Prime Minister, his Party and the Australian people.

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    Rhoda

    Yes, have to agree that Rudd betrayed everyone. It was obvious he was trying to undermine the PM as a payback and now he’s paying the price.

    Dirty politics from beginning to end .

    I would now like to see a new broom sweeping clean. And that means Rudd should go too.

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    Zelda

    Politics was ever thus ! Since time began it has been the coliseum, the arena where politics is played out. It has never been nice, fair or for the good of the country it is supposed to serve, but rather a place where power and the contest rules.

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    carole/m

    Joanne H

    On the mark as always.
    Did you read the link to. — cafewhispers — Anne Louise

  • Reply March 23, 2013

    MazT

    I do enjoy the conversations in the Commentary, so articulate, not necessarily agreeing with everyone but such is ‘conversation of ideas”, isn’t it? Except when attacks are directed at individuals rather then their viewpoints, that’s disappointing, but I’ve said this before.

    I could see/feel TA and mates ROFLA through all of it. Gabrielle, sadly, is right. LNP don’t need policies. They just need to keep TA’s mouth closed and Labor will do it all for them. Such is as it has been.

    Now? I think this is all brilliant. The old mid-20th Century’s have gone and Labor can open up once again to be a party for the 21 century future we are establishing right now. When all the resignations came through I was left open mouthed – how has JG managed to achieve all she has with all that “support” going on around her. Maybe she has used all those knives in her back as acupuncture needles? I was pleasantly surprised to hear some of the right wing TV ‘opinionators’ commending her now for her strength. I think she has won resoundingly on a lot of fronts. She also, finally, has a really clear mandate to choose who she wants and to hell with placating the various idiot factions.

    The betrayers all talked about fresh starts – please explain to me how one achieves a fresh start by going back to previous rejects? And Hawke/Keating years? Labor had a strong environmental policy back then. Hawke realised real economic strength comes from protecting the ‘nest’ and building upon it, not soiling it beyond repair. I hope the ‘new’ Labor remembers this.

    The MSM, from what I heard yesterday (don’t read newspapers) are putting the boot into Rudd this time. Talk about rats and ships. Sorry guys, but you were complicit. Suck it up.

    Simon Crean: always thought he was a good man. Was my local member for a number of years. I do suspect he has decided to take the fall to flush this all out and the Deputy role was part of the screen to achieve it. At least, I hope this is it. I liked him looking after Regions seeing as I am in one.

    Finally, to hear all the white-anters now talking about integrity and honour and right action. Yeah guys. Sure.

    Those are my thoughts anyway.

  • Reply March 24, 2013

    carole/m

    Rosie , I remember the pensioners , here in Melbourne , demonstrating in the City streets & taking their clothes off & virtually begging for an increase because they were having trouble buying enough food.
    After all the years of money flowing into gov. coffers from the massive increase in the price of Iron Ore in particular, the only Pensioners Howard gave benefits to were self funded
    retirees , which mostly excluded Women unless they were married .
    Begrudgingly he threw a few crumbs to Pensioners with a ” one off ” payment of $500 to all who were over retirement age , not means tested , so the very well off received as much as those living in poverty .
    $500 spread over 12 years , WOW.
    Thats my memory of what happened, I stand to be corrected.

    • Reply March 24, 2013

      lou51

      I agree with you Carole – Pensioners had and still have a tough time, but they never had money taken from them with not even 6 months notice – as with the single parent payment.
      As regards to Super for woman – super policy’s were always written with current retirement age ie if you took out Super in the 70’s – retirement age was I think 55 for women so the policy was written accordingly and you could access it at age 55.
      Nothing has changed -if you lost your in the 80’s,90’s or NOW etc – if you were not a widow – single parent – it was the dole or nothing – or was there a payment I am unaware of?

  • Reply March 24, 2013

    carole/m

    Rosie ,

    You might also remember that the retirement age was changed too, I think under Howard , this meant that there was no time to make adjustments even if you had Super. & many women of that age did not unless of course they were married to a man who Super.
    This meant that anyone who lost their jobs in their 60’s were thrown on the Dole .

    How easy it is for Governments to change Policy that mostly effects Women & there’s barely a whisper or it’s easy to ignore.

  • Reply March 24, 2013

    carole/m

    Lou 51

    My comments were about Aged Pensions.
    Maybe you should check your facts , during my working life the retirement age for women has changed three times . It started at 55 moved to 60 & then in my case changed to 64 .

    • Reply March 24, 2013

      lou51

      Check my facts????????
      I am sorry I don’t know what you mean. You said anyone in their 60’s who lost their job were “thrown on the dole” – as I stated if they had Super they would have been able to access it – I had to at 58 (my policy was written with retirement age 55 even tho’ new retirement age was 60 at that stage) , the prerequisite was that you no longer had prospect of future employment- not that there was a vast amount!
      Also this is not a “woman/female” thing Men have had their retirement ages changed too. Apparently we are all living and working longer. It was Rudds budget of 2009 that NOW has the retirement age at 67.
      You said they were thrown on the dole – like I said – as far as I am aware there was and is no other option.
      Trust me – try being a 60+ year old female and try and get a job today or for the past 5 years, when you have no formal training and grey hair.
      That is why I am so concerned for the woman on single parents payments – education and formal training is the only way to secure their futures and that should be the Governments policy.

  • Reply March 24, 2013

    carole/m

    Another “nasty” from the Howard years was mentioned by the PM recently,
    charitable organisations & churches who received government funding were
    warned that if they spoke out against government police they would have their funding removed.

    • Reply March 24, 2013

      JoanneH

      carole/m, I had forgotten about that – how disgusting, and now the Coalition claim to be the champions of free speech!

    • Reply March 26, 2013

      Ro

      That’s happening in QLD now, courtesy of Tunnels Newman.

  • Reply March 26, 2013

    chandos

    Julia Gillard is firstly a union rep for the AWU who by any means wants to hold power, she is only there because members are told to support her. That is why Kevin Rudd was axed – all a plan for the unions to get power. Her desire for the top job is OK but she doesn’t have the ability as seem many times over. She is good at spending all the money Howard and Costello left and putting Australia in debt 260 billion dollars and growing by the day, I could do that too.
    There has to be something very wrong though to see the elders of the Labour Party resign out of pure fustration and unwillingness to be part of this sinking ship- they want to be seen in history as people who have tried to do something to stop this government. Now all she has is yes people around her – nice safe bet.

  • Reply March 26, 2013

    Olga

    ro, dress it up any way you like. Gillard said that there would be no Carbon Tax under a government led by her. We now have a ‘Carbon Tax’. Trying to justify a lie, how sad. It’s indefensible. Just like the Tampa incident was. Accept the mistake and move on.

  • Reply March 28, 2013

    Chandos

    Umm I was not dressing anything up – just the facts. I would direct you to a Bob Hawke article dated the 6th jan who states that he is concerned about the influence of the unions in the current Labour Party. Move on to what more party dysfunction and more union corruption jobs for the boys. Don’t worry Howard was no angel but he looks like one in comparison to Gillard. Not only the Carbon Tax but Wilkies gambling cancelled policy , Gillard said yes to that too and has cancelled this when she didn’t,t need his vote. Anyway the public will have their opinion on all these things Sept 14th.

  • Reply March 28, 2013

    Chandos

    Move on to what more party dysfunction and more union corruption jobs for the boys. Don’t worry Howard was no angel but he looks like one in comparison to Gillard. Not only the Carbon Tax but Wilkies gambling cancelled policy , Gillard said yes to that too and has cancelled this when she didn’t,t need his vote. Anyway the public will have their opinion on all these things Sept 14th.

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