• I agree with at least one or two of the statements (and if you'd seen my cousins, you'd be hoping it wasn't that one). The rest are hilarious. I loved Up The Duff and Kidwrangling. Now I'm just about to buy Girl Stuff for my daughter. What a gift that such a warm, clever and funny person has bothered to create these guides to our various stages of life. - Carolyn
  • You a past Labor member? That's a good one! So presumably you were once concerned about social justice. You railed against rampant materialism but because you perceive the ABC and its audiences believe in what you presumably once believed in, you want it slashed and burned and its journos tossed out into the streets? Huh? - Kel
  • Well what's your take on why the ABC PLUS the MSM refuses to investigate the Ashby affair; you know where a federal justice adjudicated that an LNP candidate in concert with Ashby conspired to bring down the government by fraudulently claiming sexual harassment by Slipper. Is this left wing bias? Who gains from non investigation of this issue? Furthermore why won't any journalist including our truth seeker Alberici, ask Pyne why he lied when asked about his dealings with Ashby. What about when Hockey denied meeting with Brough and Brough denied the number of times he had met Ashby. Gee this isn't about left or right wing bias, this is about the truth. Given that Limited News' 70% monopoly is dedicated to bringing down the government how does a citizen learn the truth about any issue confrronting this nation? - Kel
  • There is an issue with semantics regarding this article and Summers' thesis in general, which is the distinction between COURTESY and RESPECT. The social upheavals of the 1960s up-ended the notion that those in positions of authority were automatically entitled to respect. Whilst someone like Gillard shouldn't be subjected to threats, intimidation etc., few politicians have done more to undermine their own credibility. - Nathan
  • Well put, and I hope to see your documentary. I hate the idea of vaccinations and believe they can be harmful individually but we are part of a community and as such, we have responsibilities to each other, so my son'a vaccinations are up to date. The reality is that no one knows what will happen to us or our children, whether we are talking about injury by vaccine, or injury by preventable disease, or running in a marathon where a terrorist is in wait, or getting in a car and being wiped out by a drunk driver. We all do what we can for our kids and we can try and protect them as much as we can - but none of us escape misfortune. I have a friend whose son has shocking tumours and a limited life span. My own son has a platelet disorder which means we have to be constantly vigilant that he doesn't injure himself lest he bleed internally. Let's do what we can for our own - but let's not harm others in the process. - Alice Smith
  • What a fabulously challenging topic. Jackdan, very well delivered argument. I'd love to see your research. Publish it! Sonya, I look forward to tomorrow night's documentary. Thanks for taking (what sounds like) a rational approach. - Misty
  • Thanks jack... a very interesting response and, from my communications with Sonya I think this is exactly the conversation she's hoping for. Be very interested to hear your response after viewing the doco. - Wendy Harmer
  • As someone who doesn't follow the Australian Vaccination schedule, I already feel like I am risking ridicule and worse posting here. We have been hassled and hounded by doctors, nurses (one of us is a nurse) and other parents. Blamed for the resurgence Whooping cough and related deaths, etc. Our stance is that we immunise based on our own needs and intelligence. As a for instance, we are not convinced that our children needed to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B at birth, especially given that the vaccine contained Thiomersal when it was recommended to us. I'm not sure how aware you are of the Japanese experience with the DTP vaccinations in the mid 1970's, but as a result of many adverse reactions and over 30 deaths as a direct result of the vaccine, the schedule was altered and children were vaccinated later. I am aware that the vaccine is no longer a whole cell vaccine, however it is worth considering the delicate balance of the immune system in infants below 6 months of age. So we immunise roughly to the Japanese schedule. There is no Hep B or vericella. And MMR is given as MR and Mumps separately. We will make the call on Japanese when we visit next month. I note that the tone in the promotion of the doco appears to depict the non vaccination school as driven by emotion with the pro vaccination argument being driven by Science (which is a pretty broad concept). Our decision to vaccinate alternatively has been based on a lot of careful research and is based on risk mitigation considering that vaccinations do carry a percentage of risk, however small. We have the advantage of also being Japanese citizens, (myself a spouse resident) and can access the differently combined vaccines and scheduling. When recently discussing this on a facebook post I was branded an anti Vaccinator. Abused and blamed. My response is that I think there is a better way. A much better way. And the heavy handed pressure to Immunise to schedule, which then elicits a strong anti response from those who question, but are discouraged strongly and frowned upon for questioning, has created a climate of 'for or against', emotion or science, us against them. All pretty narrow reductive way to explore a whole collection of different diseases, risks, and vaccines (including their varieties of compositions, combinations and timing). So we have attempted to immunise the best way that we can ascertain. It's a tricky time consuming task to get all the info on each different vaccine from the manufacturers, to research each and every disease to ascertain the risks of actually contracting it and then what the risks associated with the disease are, but it has been worthwhile. I think that the community could benefit from a less doctrinal approach to the current immunisation schedule and regular review of disease risks and the vaccination schedule response. - Jackdan
  • I'm an E cup. When I was younger and skinnier I was only a C cup and could handle underwires. Then I got pregnant and discovered the bliss of maternity bras. Post babies and breastfeeding I went back to the wires only to find they poked me and now I've got 'birdseyes' in my cleavage. I cannot fathom the underwire. Obviously the person who designed it has never had to wear one. Having big boobs we're all encouraged to wear them, but now I'm old and fat they're far too uncomfortable to contemplate. I'm happy with my 'wirefree' bras. I figured that if manufacturers could make a maternity bra without wires that fitted perfectly and provided excellent support to lactating breasts, they could do the same for large, non-lactating breasts too. I found the perfect fit for me at a large chain store and bought the same type for years. Not terribly sexy, but comfortable and serviceable. Now I've discovered same large chain has a moulded cotton bra in large sizes. Better still, you can order them online when the sales are on and collect them from the store. Bliss! - BeansGran
  • Well put Sonya. I am so glad that you have created this documentary. Also, you have put forward a voice of reason backed up by compelling evidence & your own credibility. I am pro-vaccination, but I understand why it is an delicate decision for many parents. I haven't come across the anti-vax theories (I'd never even heard of the AVN until Mamamia kept writing & tweeting about them). I'd always just followed the immunisation schedule. But I have come across a lot of pushy pro-vaxxers and I have to say, it is a turn off. I understand that it's a passionate issue. But is it an effective way of increasing immunisation rates? Of course not. Some pro-vaxxers make it their full time job to name, shame & harass people opposed to vaccination. Is harassment going to change their position, heck no! Is it going to galvanise their anti-vac position, quite probably! I just think we need to be smarter about this. I know it is not a "debate" in the sense that the science is in on the benefits & general safety of vaccines. But it completely normal to feel uneasy about purposely injecting your child with something most of us know very little about. And then watching their every breath that evening as they process that vaccine. Sonya, I hope that your documentary is the beginning of the change in the way we talk about immunisation. Well done. - Kasey
 
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MY DAD. WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN

There are an estimated 2.6 million carers in Australia.

The nominations for the NSW 2012 Carers Award have opened. They will “acknowledge the sacrifices carers make for a family member or loved one”.

“Carers are the unsung heroes in our community and they all deserve our recognition and thanks for their selfless efforts in supporting people with a disability, mental illness, chronic health conditions or people who are frail,” said NSW Minister for Ageing and Disability Services, Andrew Constance.

However, we know all too well that “caring” is not the kind and selfless word we like to think it is. Embarrassment, resentment, anger, denial and blame are just some the complex emotions we feel when we struggle to find the best in ourselves to “care”.

The guilt and sorrow never leave us as we ask: “Could I have done more?”

Today, The Hoopla presents Elizabeth’s story:

At the next table, the waitress placed a cake before a middle-aged man while his family sang Happy Birthday.

The man blew out the sparklers and dug in as cameras wielded by his kids – they were smiling, proud 20-somethings – flashed around the table. I smiled and then, unexpectedly, began to cry.

My dad died nine years ago after a lengthy struggle with motor neurone disease, a neuro-degenerative condition that wastes the patient’s motor functions until he or she cannot move, eat, speak or, eventually, breathe.

If I will never fully accept the manner of Dad’s death, I’ve done my grieving and have learned to live without him. What still takes me unawares is the way The Disease, as our family referred to it, robbed us of him long before the end.

Years before his diagnosis, the effects of The Disease had the family in turmoil.

A clergyman who worked long hours to promote social justice and help the needy, Dad began behaving erratically and self-destructively. He drank too much, and when drunk he lectured anyone within reach on his pet subjects. “How much do you earn?” he would demand of unwary punters at the bar. “How much do you give to the homeless?”

When we persuaded him to see a doctor, we anticipated a diagnosis of depression and a prescription of counselling. Instead, the doctor diagnosed MND, prescribed nothing and gave him four years to live.

I will never forget sitting down to lunch with my dad and watching his jaw shake as he related this.

At first, there was a flurry of activity: research, medical trials, mailing groups. Dad was so fit; he’d run his fifth Great North Run a few months previously. How could he be dying of a wasting disease? But within six months he needed a stick, and two years later a wheelchair.

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13 Responses to this article

  1. Ilsa Evans June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I identify so strongly. My father also died of MND, although in his case he chose to bring forward his death. The collaboration required brought problems itself. A horrible, horrible disease that stripped our family’s defences and left a rawness that continues to this day. My sympathies.

     
  2. JessB June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Beautifully written Elizabeth, thank you for sharing. I’m so sorry that you lost your Dad, and that he died too.

     
  3. Lizabelle June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Thank you, Ilsa and Jess – and Ilsa, I’m so sorry to hear about your father. You’re right that it’s a terrible disease; every case is different, and differently horrible.

     
  4. Pam Newton June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Such a beautiful piece Liz. My dad died of cancer when I was 14, after a couple of years of being “sick.” Your observation that The Disease “erased my earlier life with him” rings so true. I find that looking in family albums I try and place the moments – was that before or after he first got sick, then try and harvest the memories from the befores.

    I’m so sorry for your loss. These are the losses that reshape the world in ways that continue to take us unawares.

     
  5. Lizabelle June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Thanks, Pam. It took me a long time to realise how extensively my memories of my dad before MND had disappeared. Reconstructing that life is necessary, I think – I’m glad you can still do that with your own father to some extent.

    And I’m so sorry you had to lose your dad at such a young age. It does such damage, even though we grow around the loss. As you say, it reshapes the world.

     
  6. Anna June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    My Father had his mind until the end of his battle with lung disease. My mother however had Alzheimers and I really understand what you mean about losing your Dad before his death. It’s hard now to remember her as vibrant, clever and laughing when the other memories are so strong… Sometimes, just sometimes death is kind but doesn’t come as soon as you would hope – for their sake.

     
  7. Lizabelle June 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Hi Anna – yes, it’s very difficult when the person “goes away” while they are still living. Your mother sounds wonderful; I hope you manage to hold on to those memories of her in the good times.

     
  8. speccygirl June 20, 2012 Reply
     
     

    My mum is in NZ with MND – I think the fact that she doesn’t drink has probably helped with some apsects… sorry to hear about what a terrible time you and your family have been through

     
  9. Lizabelle June 20, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Thanks, Speccygirl, and all the best to you and your mum in what must be a very tough time.

     
  10. Maree June 21, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Thank you for such a heart felt story, it is very sad and I hope you can find some pre MND memory of your Dad to hold on to.

     
  11. Lizabelle June 22, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Thank you, Maree – I really appreciate the sentiment.

     

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