• I think many women's rape stories get twisted by others no matter what they do. Not being believed would be the worst. - katie
  • Last week, when the criminal record of Meagher's killer was made public, everyone seemed amazed person like him could be out of prison. While I was disgusted he was free, I wasn't surprised and it's because of attitudes like the ones Tracey describes. As a society we place blame on the victims of sexual assault, and therefore mitigate the responsibility of the attacker. There is some underlying idea that men are unable (or unwilling) to control themselves, which is rather insulting to the vast majority of men who do act decently. As I was buying my morning coffee today I was scanning the front of the paper and read the story of Milne's arrest for rape. The barista noticed and I said it was interesting the arrest had happened so long after the crime. The barista asked what did the girl expect, going back to some guy's hotel room. You hear stuff like this whenever these topics come up. Having no desire to start a fight with a virtual stranger I just replied that I had had people I didn't really know sleep at my house in the past and not once did I find it necessary to rape them. I will be buying my coffee elsewhere in the future. - kage
  • Thank you Germaine for the article. I do not need to be persuaded to vote for the PM and not just because she is a woman, but because she is a leader, a leader under extremely difficult and distressing circumstances; a leader with vision; sometimes having to compromise and take a smaller step forward than envisaged, however, any step forward in policy and reform is a step in the right direction. I try to use my voice against shock jocks on stations I despise, just to get up their noses, and get totally put down and ridiculed when objecting to their tactics, BUT Germaine YOU have a voice and a voice to be listened to. Please use YOUR VOICE as well as your writing skills to spread this message. - Vickie
  • Sometimes I just want to give up and call everyone who does not get how wrong such assaults are pigs. - ro.watson
  • Given that i wish to see the continuation of carbon pricing and allied green policies, the roll out of the (real) NBN, the funding of the NDIS and the Gonski education reforms, i have no hesitation in voting Labor on September 14th. I will be extremely happy to see PM Gillard retain her position. - sally b
  • Show me your policies Tony Abbott. I judge Gillard on her strengths already, not as some putative enduring barricade against the shock jocks here or there, Germaine. - ro.watson
  • This is so much like my own story. I have so much trouble getting people to understand, even 6 years after separation that he will always be the father of my kids, that he is deserving of respect, even if he has not been the best husband, that I cannot live with him, I do not feel romantic any more but I want him to be the best person he can be because my kids love him and he is their hero, no matter what I say. And I worry so much about the kids and I hope they don't grow up without the skills for a beautiful relationship. So I hope all goes well. I look forward to seeing how you manage. - Bron
  • But to vote for someone just because they are a woman is as flawed as voting for someone just because they are a man. The key point in Germaine's article for me was that we need to start focusing on policies and not personalities. - Pea
  • The best way to defeat this disgusting attack on Julia Gillard is to support her re-election. If she were to succeed in being re-elected it would send a powerful message to her bigoted detractors. Would certainly put a lot of twisted bitter people back in their proper place. - JohnB
  • I'm a big fan of classical music and rap, maybe it's because i'm from the ipod generation but i don't see why it has to be one or the other. I totally understand not liking rap, but that doesn't mean it has no value. Maybe it's unfair to specifically target Mandy's article, because this is one of many articles reinforce a myopic view of misogyny in music by specifically using rap as an example when it is in all genres, but i felt the readership of the hoopla is intelligent and considered enough to consider my point, which is the double standard when it comes to criticism of misogyny in music. Rap is a genre created by black people and has clear connotations towards it, and this article isn't without context. I realise it was unintentional but it reinforces negative stereotypes about rap, and by extentsion black culture. One doesn't have to mention race for it still to be relevant to the discussion. I am in complete agreement with her otherwise. Anyway I feel i've made my case and it's for others to judge whether i'm right or not. I don't want to continue this because i don't want to diminish the point of this article, which is that we as a society don't take rape a tenth as seriously as we should. That i'm sure is something that you and i can agree on Tony. - Ash
 
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STUCK FOR SOMETHING TO SAY?

Ever been stuck for something to say? You know, when your brain turns to complete mush and the people you are with start to fear you are having a stroke?

It happens to me quite frequently, and as my plate gets fuller and I am becoming more and more incapable of engaging in complex conversations, I have had to come up with some “cheat sheet” type lines, so I can smoothly glide over those potentially awkward pauses in conversations, or in my dealings with difficult people.

As I get older, my tolerance has decreased for social intercourse with complete half-wits.

But life is made up with a kaleidoscope of folk whose opinions are different to yours, or whose idea of a great conversation is your idea of hell. Perhaps you have stumbled across a group of intellectually superior beings, or maybe, you just cannot take another slinging match with an objectionable family member?

Remember these four lines and use them as you see fit. I have given you some scenarios that may be familiar to you.

“There is really a lot to consider.”

This simple line is so very varied in how it can be applied. A really good option if you are stuck chatting with a dullard. For example if you are talking to a complete bore who is waffling on and on about their choice of ceiling insulation they chose and how it was installed, and then they shake you out of your coma by asking what insulation you would choose, then this is your line.

“I have never really thought about it that way.”

This is a great comeback for someone who you have been arguing with for far too long and you just want to exit the exchange without it turning into a complete shit fight. Particularly helpful when dealing with family members who you cannot afford to have a big-time rift with.

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21 Responses to this article

  1. Kerri Sackville July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    The sage nod. Don’t forget the sage nod. Makes words themselves become redundant.

     
  2. Kim-Marie July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I like to employ the “smile and nod”. Often with teeth firmly clenched lest I speak. Best used when dealing with family.

     
  3. La Hola July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    So many…too many.

     
  4. amd July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    “Maybe so, maybe so….. “one my mother used to use. If it’s a question – “Why do you want to know that?” sometimes works (In a polite voice). Or, yes, just smile and wander off or change the subject. So long as we remember we are not required to answer rudeness at all, if we choose not to, it’s all good. I like the interesting times one, good for those concentration lapses.

     
  5. Carmel July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I have never really thought about it like that before… I can think of a million situations where that line would have come in handy.

     
  6. Pammo July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Yep, yep, yep…nodding. I often find myself in this situation when having a political discussion with my boss, who is right leaning to my bleeding heart socialist self :)

     
  7. Dee July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Great advice, as I often find myself overdoing the “mmmm, that’s an interesting point” schtick in these situations.
    Thank, you for sharing your thoughts, Mrs Woog, and I say that in the least ironic and most sincere way :)

     
  8. The Huntress July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I must confess I have a rather obnoxious social habit and I hope I won’t be judged to harshly for it…

    When in company of a particular brand of person (sexist, racist, homophobic, refugee bashing narcissist) and I don’t want to to argue with them I start talking about philosophical argumentative fallacies. There is nothing like saying “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” to an obnoxious guest at whatever function you have to be attending (I look forward to the day someone actually can have this discourse with me, I LOVE a good debate) – they don’t want to look stupid (because they’re usually holding court and bashing everyone who doesn’t share their perspective), but don’t want to look stupid either. It can work 2 ways, either the nasty diatribe will stop or they will pretend that they know what I’m talking about and just look silly.

    And that’s when I walk away – I have learned to never argue with a fool.

     
    • gogirl July 5, 2012 Reply
       
       

      lol, I love it!

       
  9. Lisa Lee July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    If ever I get to have a chat with you Mrs. Woog, I’ll be waiting for “there is really a lot to consider”. I’ll take that as my cue to slink away xx

     
  10. Stacey July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I use “I appreciate your comments” when I’m getting “helpful” advice. It is polite although the unspoken “shut the f@#k up” just hangs in the air!

     
  11. sam July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I have been trying to get around listening to the same story over and over again. My elderly mother-law is staying with us and last night after suffering through the same story for the fourth time in as many days I said.”let me stop you there, you have told me that story before” She immediately got very hurt and refused to talk to me for the rest of the evening. Any suggestions on how to tackle it next time?

     
    • Joni July 5, 2012 Reply
       
       

      She may have been nervous and/or suffering dementia. My mum repeats the same stories 50 x and I have learnt to just listen patiently or carefully change the subject.

       
    • Stacey July 5, 2012 Reply
       
       

      My Mum is a story repeater and I always just say “oh that’s right, you told me about that”. Half the time it works, the rest of the time she continues on her merry way and continues the story!

       
  12. Wendy Harmer July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I recall my first interview ever on telly ( back in the 80′s) with KAK who asked me: “Wendy, do you think it’s important to be subjective in comedy?”
    Having NO idea what she was talking about, I replied:
    “Well, Kerrie-Ann, that reminds me of a funny story”

    PS: I still don’t know what she was talking about. And now, I have even MORE funny stories… that’s probably my circuit breaker… “I’ll never forget the time”.

     
  13. Joni July 5, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I was guest speaker at a conference and was asked to answer a question which had (to me) an unidentified industry based acronym in it. I stood up and waited for silence to answer the question and then the convener repeated the question with the acronym now in full.

    PHEW – What a relief! I was very lucky.

    I’ve found that waiting may make a person repeat the question with more detail.

     
  14. Nancy July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Great lines! I have committed them to memory. Thanks Mrs Woog!

     
  15. Trish July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Very sage assvice indeed.

     
  16. Carli July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Great advice. I’ve used a number of these on my mother-in-law. I find the “repeat back” helpful when someone makes an underhanded comment and you can’t think of a comeback – “Sorry? You think I’m making the baby sick because of the new Ikea rug?” That kind of thing.

     
  17. Megan Frankie July 6, 2012 Reply
     
     

    ‘We live in interesting times…’ – Isn’t that the sort of thing that vacuous celebrity TV presenters say? A dead giveaway, I would have thought.

     
    • Mrs Woog July 6, 2012 Reply
       
       

      Works for me! Xx

       

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