Something everyone seems to have missed in this debate, and not just here :
”The most profitable hours for retail, tourism and hospitality are on the weekend. It’s when the rest of us are looking to spend what we’ve earned during the week,” Tehan said.
And Clive Pamer has recently said the same thing (I know!) - retail, hospitality, tourism and other sectors often do quite well out of weekend or high-season trade. They can afford to pay penalty rates. Flip side is they roster fewer people for the 'slow' times and lay off all their casuals in the off-season.
I say 'fair dos'. The workers should share in the upside since they absolutely 'share' in the downside,
And if you work shifts (worse, rotating shifts) you should be paid extra given all the research showing the health impacts that causes.
If we accept that workers are still humans with attachments and responsibilities beyond the workplace, then they should be compensated for inconvenient/ dangerous/ dirty work. To argue otherwise is to admit that workers are little more than robots who turn up, and put in the absolute minimum, at 'the economy's' convenience.
I'd like to think, in a liberal democracy, we all see ourselves as a little better than that?
And yes, I think health/fire/police/emergency and other workers are paid less than they deserve (including on penalties) but that's an argument for another day ... - Chris
You're dreaming Sandy. My bingo card was full at - What an ugly twisting and manipulation of the truth. You have no idea.
such sweet righteous indignation.
Suck it up princess. - Alistair
That annoys the crap out of me, JG.
I was asked at the cash register at one restaurant to pay a Sunday surcharge that was not listed anywhere on the distributed menus (or on any entry sign or prominently displayed info.
I told the lady owner that I was not pleased to be asked unannounced for a 10% Sunday surcharge and asked her why. She told me it was that they had higher operating costs on Sundays.
I told her I had no problem with that as long as it was publicised and that her staff were getting the penalty rates implied.
I suggested she do one of two things:
(a) put the Sunday/public holiday surcharge sign up and put it on the menus AND/OR
(b) add 3%-5% to all the menu prices and not ask for the surcharge at all ... i.e. "average" out the surcharge over the seven days per week they open.
As it turned out, Kristy, one of the waitresses, approached me at school (where I teach her daughter) and said she admired what I'd said that Sunday ... but further added that none or Miriam;s staff are paid penalty rates for Sundays or public holidays.
Miriam, it seems, plays them for a cash rate off the books of $12 per hour, no tax.
I have since approached the ATO bloke I know about Miriam's practices. - Iain Macpherson
Gals please, stop squabbling. - J
Hear, hear Sandy. - Iain Macpherson
Thanks Ann Noyd. That was outstanding. Stop the Boats. Clean up Labor's mess. All I need now is "The Adults Are In Charge" and my Bingo card is full. - Sandy
Francesca, first off he promised to stop the boats. Mission accomplished. Something Labor simply couldn't get their heads around. He's got a royal commission taking a fine toothed comb into the labor union movement to clear up all the corruption. Something Labor would never do even though people like Michael Williamson were lining their pockets for years and getting away with it. He's followed through on bringing Labor crooks like Craig Thomson to justice. He's so busy clearing up Labor's messes that he has
Ittle time to grandstand in front of the press like Kevin Rudd. He's working to put this country back on track and the opposition knows this And sees his competency and can't find any reason to fault him. Go to the Coalition website and feast your eyes on all the plans in motion. I can't list thm al; too numerous. Ps: he also has the right values, I.e. instead of throwing $at people he wants them to work for it. Labor would have us all wimps who need government assistance. Pathetic! - Ann Noyd
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Well said Victoria.
It's strange how people who want to propogate heinous cruelty and barbarism demand respect and acceptance and somehow manage to sanctify themselves ,,, while they offer no respect in return, more likely are apt to trample basic rights and peacefullness of others. - melissa
Completely agree. Age-appropriate programs could start by critiquing dangerous rubbish like 'boys will be boys' or 'he only hurts you because he likes you'. They could also address the use of 'girl' as an insult. Common denominators amongst abusive men are an inflated sense of male entitlement and low levels of support for gender equality. These attitudes form early - and MUST be addressed early. - Ilsa Evans