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WHY I SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE

Self declared “Catholic feminist” and former NSW Premier Kristina Keneally has spoken out in favour of gay marriage in the Jesuit publication, Eurekastreet.com.au.

“I didn’t hear the word lesbian until I went to university. In my childhood, homosexuality was not discussed: not at home, not at church, not at school.

I’m sure there were homosexual people in my classroom or community. Possibly even in my extended family. But they were not ‘out’. Even the prevailing culture did not engage with homosexuality: growing up in middle America in the ’70s and ’80s was still far more Happy Days than Glee.

To say I grew up in a Catholic enclave wouldn’t be far wrong. I went to Catholic primary school, where my mother also taught. My dad was a Eucharistic minister in our parish. After attending an all-girls Catholic high school, I earned a BA in political science at a Catholic university, then spent a gap year teaching at a Catholic primary school.

I met my husband at World Youth Day ’91. Before we married, I headed back to university for a masters degree in theology and got my first proper job working as the NSW state youth coordinator for the Society of St Vincent de Paul.

As a legislator, I have voted for and promoted legislation that accords rights, such as adoption, to homosexual people. I have publicly stated that I don’t agree with the Church’s teaching on homosexuality.

How did such a good Catholic girl arrive at what appears to be a non-Catholic position on this issue?

The first people I knew who acknowledged their homosexuality were fellow Catholics at university, living away from home for the first time, struggling with a very real question of who they were and how they should live.

My lack of knowledge about homosexuality meant I had very few presuppositions to confront. I came to the questions of how to respond to homosexual people armed not with Vatican teachings and cultural assumptions, but simply with the Gospel message of ‘love one another as I have loved you’.

What I witnessed were people who suffered greatly because of the judgement of their family and community; friends who were more acquainted with loneliness than with romantic relationships; devout Catholics, some with a true call to vocation, grieving because their own church had no place for them.

I realised no one would choose an orientation that brought such misery.

In time I came to ask what the Church taught on homosexuality, and why. Richard P. McBrien’s seminal tome, Catholicism, explained the Vatican teachings acknowledging the validity of homosexual orientation while condemning homosexual activity.

McBrien also outlined other theological points of view, including the argument that homosexual acts are morally neutral, because the morality of a sexual act depends on the quality of the relationship of the people involved; or that homosexual acts are preferable to living a life where one can never give expression to one’s sexuality.

Another significant influence on my thinking also came from my studies of Catholic doctrine: the inviolability of conscience.

Conscience is a tricky area when one wants to claim it as a basis for disagreeing with the Church’s official teaching. It often leads to accusations of being a ‘cafeteria Catholic’, choosing only the parts of Church teaching you want to agree with.

(I find this ironic, given that the Church has never explicitly claimed infallibility on a moral teaching, and has altered its own views over the years in response to cultural changes, e.g., on usury.)

The Second Vatican Council declares we are bound to follow our conscience faithfully; that one cannot be forced to act in a manner contrary to their conscience. But a conscience must be properly formed. Conscience is not a feeling; it is a decision to act based on thorough consideration.

A Catholic conscience must give attention and respect to Church teachings, but is also bound to consider science, reason, human experience, scripture and other theological reflection.

This is how I came to the views I have espoused in the Parliament and in public debate: by thoroughly forming my conscience.

Science affirms the Church’s view that homosexual orientation is genuine, but if we are all made in the likeness of God, how can that natural orientation turn sinful when it is given expression through physical acts of love?

If we accept that heterosexual people who are physically unable to have children are able to express themselves in physical acts, why then aren’t people who God created with a homosexual orientation able to do the same?

Scripture isn’t a great deal of help in this area, though perhaps its relative silence is instructive.

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13 Responses to this article

  1. Virginia September 26, 2011 Reply
     
     

    Like a lot of other catholics, she puts far more importance on what the catholic church authorities say than what the bible says, which is what all Christian churches supposedly follow. You will not find many protestant churches that have so many other books and articles and proclamations etc that people base their faith and it’s practices on than you will in the catholic church. As is written on the pope’s formal head gear, ‘IN PLACE OF God’. In other words, catholicism is in almost no way representative of the real God, of Jesus, or of what Jesus would do or what God is about or wants us to be. If one is going to associate what they believe or do with Christianity and God, leave out catholic doctrine and ‘rules’ as they have little to do with real Christianity.

     
    • Wendy Green September 28, 2011 Reply
       
       

      … and what, in your opinion, is real Christianity?

       
  2. Brenda September 26, 2011 Reply
     
     

    noting Vatican 2 was not realised to general release, wonder how Christina can quote from it

     
    • Wendy Green September 28, 2011 Reply
       
       

      ? Please explain? This doesn’t make sense to me, Brenda?

       
  3. Kate September 26, 2011 Reply
     
     

    …and let the Catholic bashing begin.

    Thank you, Kristina, for putting into words far more eloquently than I would ever be able to, my own feelings about this issue.

     
  4. Louisa September 26, 2011 Reply
     
     

    Kristina you are a beautiful person inside and out. I admire your compassion and thoughtfulness on this issue. I hope other Catholics read this article and think about their own stance. I usually only read Eureka Street for the quality film reviews. Congratulations.

     
  5. Pauline September 26, 2011 Reply
     
     

    Kristina – this reminded me of some of those thought provoking discussions we used to have around the lunch room table at Vinnies. You should write more articles like this in the mainstream newspapers.

     
  6. MrsP2011 September 27, 2011 Reply
     
     

    Oh please! Don’t encourage her any further.

     
    • Wendy Green September 28, 2011 Reply
       
       

      Oh no, Mrs P – let’s!

       
      • MrsP2011 September 29, 2011 Reply
         
         

        No, Let’s not. She’s a pain in the butt!

         
  7. Daphne Alaksa November 16, 2011 Reply
     
     

    59 years ago I was a hotel receptionist at a private hotel in Brisbane. There were a couple of gentlemen who used to come quite regularly and share a room together. They dressed quite beautifully and were extraordinarily well mannered. What I loved most about these men was that one or the other of them loved to wear a pink shirt. I also loved the simple fact that sometimes they would walk down the stairs into the foyer holding each others’ hands. I had a complete understanding about homosexuality but in those bad old days, most homosexuals were extremely nervous about showing their feelings for one another. It’s so good that it is now moreorless totally accepted by all except those whose minds are completely old-fashioned and whose opinions are set in stone. Still, bless them all. We are each and every one of us entitled to our own opinions.

     

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