• That would be great. There is a Facebook group I am part of, I found it by desperately searching one night because you do feel so alone! https://www.facebook.com/?q=#/groups/130773080382056/?ref=ts&fref=ts We mainly go there to ask for advice and support as many of us feel abandoned and helpless. - Concerned
  • Thank you Benison. I too get sick of people claiming ADHD is not a real condition and that it's the environment, diet, poor parenting etc. Parents of children with other disabilities get support and compassion but I have found ostracism, criticism and nasty comments. - Concerned
  • Last two rules rock it Mrs Woog. Our nail polish rule is a little more fluid...as long as its applied nicely and a neutral tone and you dont get detention for wearing it, its ok. We are an out and proud family and zero tolerance to judgey crap, all welcome in our home just ask you bring your manners and humour - Cstar
  • Miranda that's a sensational idea. I've put my full name up this time and can be found on Facebook. I'm also happy to put my email address. Just like Concerned, I used to think that life would be so much easier if my son had a physical disability as well. Not in any way to discredit how hard it is to look after anyone, let alone a child in that situation, but because it just seemed it would be easier. I begged for valium at one point for my son, just a small dose to calm him down and regain some control but it seemed that it was easier for doctors to say no to that rather than give some form of relief to the child and the rest of the family. He was on anti-psychotics for a while but they didn't help because he is not psychotic. Rhoda you're idea about parenting resources is a good one, but only for ADD and ADHD. Oppositional Defiant Disorder, Conduct Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder (which is what they call ODD when they turn eighteen), are totally different animals. These children have a neurological problem within the brain where the signals just don't get through or are totally blocked to different parts of the brain. These children are born this way, they don't grow into it though in some circumstances of parenting or familial problems can make it worse. Because of the anger, violence and abuse issues there is no form of respite either because the risk of someone else being hurt is too high and no agency will risk it. If anyone does want to make contact, here's my email: t_forbes64@hotmail.com I'll check out Facebook....perhaps a support and resource page might be of help too. Just knowing there are others going through the same thing and you won't be ridiculed for what you say and you will be believed can be a help. - Tracey Forbes
  • What relentlessly distressing stories some of the respondents have to tell. Their problems don't sound like they're caused by lack of diagnosis or increased rates of prescription - rather show need for more community support, better training of social workers, police, journos etc. Just wonder how much contact Concerned and others have with parents in similar situations - and if there's some of way of putting you all in touch with each other - if you're interested? - miranda
  • It seems we should love your rules, but not our neighbours, if they are are those of people who disagree with our "tolerant" view of peoples sexual preferences. Morality and other such obselete values ought not to come into it. Besides "loving your neighbour" is for those intolerant Christian suckers. - Na Yeo
  • It's OK Sue Bell , John Jay has obviously been " away " again . He craves attention , so if we just ignore him he will no doubt wander back to his " right wing hate sights " like Bolt & Ackerman et al. Meanwhile John Jay , suggest nice cuppa and a lay down . - Carole/m
  • Sly Place has just about said it all on Rudd's narcissism. I'd only add that he can't pretend to be naive about the effect his outbursts have had on Labor. And if it was a former staffer who changed Rudd's mind on gay marriage, pity he didn't listen when the bloke was actually employed in his office. - miranda
  • Does Australia have parent training resources? I've read that parent training is helpful in managing the behaviour. - Rhoda
  • Woah Sally, this article is intended as a catalyst for discussion, not a comprehensive analysis. I think that in a short space Lucy has raised several elements of an extremely complex debate. I've worked as a high school teacher and I've noticed many cases where a teenager " becomes" their diagnosis and uses it as a shield that prohibits self reflection and responsibility for ones own behaviour. A la " I've been diagnosed with ADHD I can skip work/ play up/ leave the room whenever like. Rently I confronted an aquaintance who thought it totally fine to repeat personal information she'd been told in confidence. Her reasoning " I've got ADHD you know" Likewise the wife of a friend who errupts in ferociously violent and abusive rages... people's reaction to her behaviour sometimes goes along the lines of " maybe she's bypolar" How about the " depressed" man who kills a random stranger? Or the " depressed" footballer or politician acting like rascals? Sure, genuine mental illness is out there and it should be taken very seriously, medicated where this can improve immediate functioning. But there's a growing trend to label what s simply obnoxious intolerable bahaviour as a " mental illness" . - melissa
 
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QUICK FACTS: TASERS

The Ombudsman, Bruce Barbour has released his report into how Tasers are used by police in NSW and the picture isn’t pretty.

He reviewed 556 incidents between June 2010 and November 2010, and found the Taser was used inappropriately on 80 occasions. On 27 of those occasions, the police were not under threat and shouldn’t have used the Taser at all. Indeed, people were tasered when they were fleeing from police or handcuffed.

About a third of the people  had been suffering or had suffered from mental illness and more than half had been affected by alcohol or drugs at the time.

In three-quarters of cases, the people were not carrying a weapon.

The report said that public concern about Tasers and their inappropriate use was justified, although the Police Commissioner, Andrew Scipione, defended police use of Tasers, saying it was appropriate in most cases.

The report comes as the NSW Coroner, Marry Jerram winds up her examination of the death of Roberto Laudisio Curti, a 21 year old Brazilian man who died in March after 11 police, who were trying to arrest him, tasered him 14 times.

Curti was, at the time, under the influence of a small amount of LSD and in a psychotic state; he had stolen a few packets of biscuits from a convenience store when the police were called.

Among the issues examined in this inquiry was the use of Tasers in “drive stun” mode – when the Taser is used directly on the skin.

Coroner Mary Jerram will hand down her findings on November 14th but she’s been told by medical experts giving evidence to the inquiry that there is no way of proving that the use of the Taser killed the young student.

The great benefit of the inquiry though has been to shed some light on the way in which police are now using Tasers, in New South Wales at least. In fact, counsel assisting the Coroner, Jeremy Gormly SC said: “To Taser somebody who is on the ground, who was surrounded by other officers … was a thuggish act”.

Peter Hamill SC, who represented Curti’s family, said he wanted the young man’s death recorded as “misadventure with precise medical cause unknown at the hands of members of the NSW Police Force”.

The NSW Police are reviewing the current rules which guide the way police use Tasers. And changes to operating procedures are a distinct possibility.

Change is sorely needed.

Although Tasers are rarely listed as a cause of death, there have been several Taser “related” deaths in Australia.

So, what are stun guns, who makes them and what does the rest of the world think about them?

  • Taser International is the sole manufacturer of the Taser. The company has grown into a global and highly profitable concern by selling its many varieties of Taser stun guns to police agencies around the world. They are standard issue to most police forces in Australia.
  • Tasers are categorized as a less than lethal weapon and deliver a 50,000 volt electrical current to cause neuromuscular incapacitation.
  •  A person who receives this electroshock will experience involuntary muscle contractions because their sensory and motor nerves have been stimulated. They are meant to be used to subdue suspects who are fleeing or who are belligerent and are said to be more effective at incapacitating than capsicum spray.
  • Exact numbers are hard to come by but it is estimated that there are around 600,000 Tasers in use by 16,300 law enforcement agencies in 107 countries.
  • It’s big business. In 2001, the weapons accounted for more than three quarters of this multi national company’s revenue. A new ‘trade-in’ policy allowing police agencies to upgrade the weapon is said to account for a 120% increase in revenue in the last quarter alone.
  • In response to the number of controversial incidents, worldwide, the company now also manufactures a video surveillance system that records how police use the Taser.
  • In Australia, Tasers can be used in ‘drive stun’ mode, where the weapon is pressed directly on to the skin to cause pain rather than electric shock. This delivers what is known as ‘pain compliance’.
  • Taser International says the weapon has saved 75,000 lives and according to a 2009 Police Executive Research Forum study in the US, injuries to police officers drops by 76% when a Taser is used for protection.

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3 Responses to this article

  1. anne louise October 23, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Sounds a lot like pharmaceutical companies to me.

     
  2. JessB October 23, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Urgh, the idea of deliberately causing physical pain to anyone doesn’t make me feel good. Why on earth would the police need to taser someone 14 times if they were on the ground?

    Personally, I would much prefer to have a taser used to subdue me than a gun, but I do wish neither had to be used, and that both were used more rarely than they currently are.

     
    • anne louise October 24, 2012 Reply
       
       

      Something really disgusting? Take a look at the ombudsman’s report. Where did empathy go?

       

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