• disillusioned. I thought all New Zealanders were no nuke, peace loving dears. there goes that stereotype! - neeter
  • I just wish the pollies and others would represent the people in their electorate and keep their personal and religious beliefs to themselves. - neeter
  • I'm with you Sly Place. Obviously the writers resentments have built up over a long time. Why hold on to this for such a long time then put it in leter - when you could just talk it through if it bugs you that much. - sue
  • Well put Finnola Usually one of mine ring up a few days beforehand to remind us when one of the Grand children's birthday are coming up but we don't always see the grand kids when it's ours and they don't approve of our presents to them so now it's sort of tit for tit not that it always works out but at least we have our lives to lead and don't wait for them - Sarah
  • I love your last rule - sue Bell
  • Above is Meant to read " I love your approach Commonsensegirlonline" - Walkthetalk
  • I have to also agree with Benster and I'm still smiling with relief at ..I LOVE your approach and I want to join your club!! Boy I could contribute to drinking away some of that wine with like minded people & drowning some sorrows, you gotta laugh! ! One irritating point I have noted with both my 20 something year old daughters is they know all the right manners and thoughtfulness when it comes to their transient friends. But one thing I haven't learned to do is refuse them when they are in need even though I may be still seething with their lack of whatever from a previous episode. - Walkthetalk
  • 111 Homosexuals and their dark agents like Rudd, want to turn the world on it’s head. They want us all to abandon God-created instinct within .. and see perversion as healthy. They want the surrounding world to say black is white, sexually. They are campaigning to this end. There is already a form of tyranny in society where many are intimidated and too scared to say what they really think about homosexuality and the perverse use of the human body (the latter an area many like to screen from their minds). There are many strategies used .. like .. “I was born this way” .. “it is genetic” .. “fairness” .. etc. There is the word-weapon “homophobic” which means you have a disorder if you are godly. To be ungodly is to fail .. not to be godly. “Cisgender” is part of this .. the battleground of words. This most grotesque word is one more brick in the wall of human disobedience to God. Where is all this .. the gay campaign to turn the world on it’s head .. leading to? Happiness? No. You cannot be happy if you march away from God. You can only be unhappy in the end. This is why they use the word “gay” .. to sell to others they are happy .. when in truth they are deeply within on a soul level not at peace at all. John Jay. - John Jay
  • Tracey and Linda, I know you understand and it helps enormously - thank you so much for responding. I actually wish our son had a physical disability like a missing limb instead because then we might get help, support and understanding whereas now we are dealing with the unimaginable horror of domestic terrorism 24/7 and getting blamed and ostracised on top of everything else we suffer. I think somedays I am close to a breakdown but keep trudging on for the otber kids. That social worker sounds like some I have met but the worst was the police woman who I'd called after being attacked by our son....even when I begged for help and outlined that we were all hostages to domestic violence she was sarcastic and abusive to me in front of our grinning son. - Concerned
  • Couldn't have said it better myself Benster. In talking around to our friends and even just acquaintances, scratch just a little below the surface and so many parents are feeling the same sentiments as this "letter". All we are expecting from our children is to exhibit some of the niceties, good manners, respect and considerations they were brought up with. We have one son who works just 3 minutes away by car, but can't find the time to call by to see if we're still alive or not. In fact, it's become a family joke that one day one of them will realise they haven't heard from us for a while and will find us as skeletons in our armchairs! Another came completely empty-handed to a family get- together at a restaurant recently to celebrate hubby's birthday and a belated Mothers Day. The excuse was "I've been a bit busy and besides you two have all you want. Sorry." This was after he'd previously asked me what we'd like and I'd suggested movie tickets. Go figure! And as for borrowing of money - never again! One son borrowed a fairly hefty amount with the promise of repayment within 12 months "when I remortgage". Imagine our embarrassment when we had to ask for it back over 3 years later, after watching he and his wife spending money airy-fairy on frivolous "must haves". To say they were put out is a big understatement. :) These late 20's to mid 40 year olds have no shame or embarrassment about such things, behave as if it's their right and have even been heard to say "Well, you don't need it. You're getting on a bit now!" So we've formed a club called the POAHK Club. (Parents of .A..-Hole Kids) where we drown our sorrows in good red wine and plan our next overseas trips to spend the kids inheritance. Doesn't solve the problem of having selfish self-centred kids, but at least we can smile when they're around knowing we have a life of our own in spite of them. - commonsensegirlonline
 
Categories:  Entertainment, Must see, News and Opinion, Television, Wellbeing

MR. FRY: POSTER BOY FOR MIDDLE AGE

Middle age… When does it happen? Is it a number or a state of mind?

A British survey of people over 50 has found that as the population ages, the perception of what’s “middle-aged” is also creeping ever upwards.

Previous studies have pinpointed the start of middle age as early as 36. However seven out of ten early 50-somethings quizzed for the survey thought middle age began at around 55.

On reading the news on the BBC website last night, Stephen Fry Tweeted to his 4,804,063 followerS: “It’s official. Three weeks ago I became middle-aged.”

 

Stephen Fry. Pin up boy for the middle-aged.
 

And isn’t Stephen Fry the best advertisement for middle age you could imagine? Quick-witted, wise, droll, fiercely intellectual and drop-dead wonderful.

No wonder so many people hang on his every word.

However, Mr Fry may still be a youngster, because at least one in five in the survey thought that midde age began at 60 (!) and one was not elderly until hitting around 70.

Surely the Brits are delusional. They seem to be ignoring the aches and pains of the ageing body because a goodly number of those surveyed said that age was just  “a state of mind”.

(Interestingly, most Europeans are not so optimistic. On average they believe middle age begins at 40 – although the Swedes think one is middle-aged at 34 and the Greeks say it’s 52).

Many will recall their parents believed themselves ancient at 50.

But now look us!

In our 40s we’re spring chickens; the 50-somethings are in their prime; the fabulous 60s  are going strong and planning to live for at least another two decades.

Australians are among the most long-lived people in the world. By 2051 demographers expect we will be home to some 38,000 centenarians.

So today we ask: What defines “middle age”?

If youth has been traditionally about potential and old age about limitation…what lies in between?

Is youth something to hold on to? Is old age to be resisted?

And what are the joys that come with embracing the glorious “middle age”?

 

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15 Responses to this article

  1. The Huntress September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Wherever middle age is, I don’t care, but I LOVE Stephen Fry.

     
  2. the*sparrow September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Stephen Fry is one of those rare characters who almost everyone likes. In my family for example: my kids because he is the narrator of their favourite PlayStation game “Little Big Planet”, my husband because he adores QI, me because I was a big Blackadder fan – and all of us because of his fabulous reading of the audio books of the Harry Potter books, which we enjoy over and over again on long car journeys.

     
  3. MichelleP September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Middle age is when you buy a red convertible

     
    • The Huntress September 19, 2012 Reply
       
       

      So I’m not middle aged as my convertible is silver…phew!

       
  4. Wendy Green September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    We probably need to consider more deeply what middle-age actually means, and then I think it will more than likely be different for everyone.
    For example, if middle-age defines an idyllic period in one’s life when they are over the impetuous naivety of youth, are enjoying a robust health in mind and body, and have not yet started experiencing the declining insecurities of older age, then that person would be in their middle-age.

    For me, that time was around 40. I am now 56 and do, very much, feel like an older person – not elderly, yet – but definitely older. I can no longer run, sit on the floor (without needing assistance to rise again only to find my feet no longer consider it necessary to hold me up!), walk for miles without the need to sit down every half hour or so, open jars of any description because of the arthritis in my hands, or climb more than one flight of stairs at a time!

    Also, I hope that I won’t live beyond about 65 as I don’t think I could stand any more of the above beyond that.

     
  5. AJ September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    From a strictly literal perspective, middle age would be half of the current life expectancy. I therefore consider myself middle aged and am seriously hoping old age gets better!

     
  6. Wendy Harmer September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Yes, someone just tweeted me ( @wendy_harmer) that middle age is always ten years older than you currently are.
    Erm, wishful thinking, I reckon.
    I have felt middle aged all my life and I might just stay that way. There in the middle juggling potential and limitation… that’s a discipline for a whole lifetime. :)

     
  7. Sleuthcity September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Go Stephen! He is a brave, brave man whom I admire even more given my son has the same bi-polar condition. It is a tough road (especially with bipolar) but Stephen shows us the way with wit and grace and an unending politeness. Bring back manners I say. Love Stephen.

     
  8. Rivka September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Middle-aged is a state of mind. A friend of mine is a flighty girl of 70. And it suits her.

     
  9. Valerie Parv September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Is there such a thing as middle age any more? Or do we all enjoy a kind of extended adolescence, a twilight zone where we’re neither foolishly young nor seriously mature? Only when the body truly begins to fail are we likely to think of ourselves as elderly. And do labels matter as long as we’re learning, growing and experimenting? As the saying goes, growing old is unavoidable but growing up is optional.

     
  10. Valerie Parv September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Stephen Fry strikes me as one who has no interest in growing up. His disregard of what anyone thinks of him, openness about what he thinks and feels, and willingness to explore and grow make him the “poster boy” for a life superbly lived, in my book. He also has an astonishing intellect. I want to be him when/if either of us gets round to growing up.

     
  11. Daphne Alaksa September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    When a person is middle aged is, I think, when they belive they are middle aged. As long as you feel young you are young, and the time that you are old is when you actually feel old. As far as I am concerned there is no particular age for these things. Some days I feel like a kid, other days I feel positively ancient. On the days that I’m just a kid at heart, I rush around doing all the physical things that need doing — even ironing which I really hate. When I’m an ancient then I do whatever is strictly necessary and the rest of the time I enjoy myself. Sometimes on one of those days I even go and have a rest in the afternoon. Anyway, it’s fair to say that most of the time I’m of the opinion that it’s a marvellous life.

     
  12. Glenis September 19, 2012 Reply
     
     

    Age is what you feel and is certainly a state of mind. I feel like I am still in my 30′s but quietly I am not! Stephen Fry a pin up by for middle age or whatever ….NO! But I do love his show.

     
  13. mary September 20, 2012 Reply
     
     

    I’m also 56 and I’d agree that I’ve been thinking of myself as middle aged since about 50, but I expect to keep labelling myself as such till I turn 70. I agree that age is not all in the mind, as various aches and pains inevitably start to hit at around 45 – however, doing yoga means I can easily sit on the floor and stand up again, live in a 3 storey house and can easily go up and down the stairs, ride a bike to work… Keeping physically and mentally active and maintaining a healthy weight are vital to quality of life. I also had a child in my 40s and that definitley keeps me young.

     
  14. Kate October 2, 2012 Reply
     
     

    My husband must be middle-aged at 52 as he just purchased a motor bike!

     

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