gillardnov29

CONDUCT UNBECOMING

It was the final day of the Parliamentary calendar this year. It could have been full of Christmas bonhomie but instead it hit rock bottom. It was nasty, personal and bitter with the two leaders tearing at each other like backyard fighting dogs.

No one was surprised. The close numbers in the Parliament have dictated that each leader has considered themselves alternatively one or two seats away from victory or oblivion.

The history books record it was like this in the later years of the Whitlam Government, when close numbers pushed leaders to go for the jugular.

Perhaps only the oratory was better ...

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86 Comments

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    vanessay

    The National Disability Insurance Scheme was introduced today. What a triumph, what a brilliant idea!
    Oh and Tony Abbott continued on down towards the point of no return.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      jonah stiffhausen

      Any idea who’s paying for this? Oh that’s right. we are.

      • Reply November 30, 2012

        vanessay

        Do you not think that you are already paying for it, Jonah? Early intervention, and the amount of money spent on it, means savings in health care, housing, and even in the legal and prison systems later in life. Early intervention funded through NDIS means many disabled people will be able to work for a living instead of being a burden on the taxpayer.
        Where the fuck (sorry, but really!) is your compassion? People cannot help being born with a disability. I really hope your lack of compassion and empathy is a means to provoke argument and not a reflection of your true self, or you are in big trouble, buddy.

        • Reply November 30, 2012

          Benison O'Reilly

          I think he already has a disability, Vanessa. An empathy deficit.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      Benison O'Reilly

      And virtually no Liberals turned up for the tabling of the historic legislation. It was a very bad look for the Libs but presumably they were too busy working on their ‘knife Julia’ tactics to attend. I’m the mother of a child with a disability and have a long memory.

    • Reply December 1, 2012

      Leila from ex Communist Russia

      Julia Gillard must step down. Her conduct is terrifying and very sad. She has lost all credibility. If you or I behaved like she has we would lose our jobs. Temper tanties and shrill shrewish screams are very soul-destroying for everyone. Julia Gillard is tarnishing the office of Prime Minister. Australia needs to be cleaned up. Unions must be for the working people not for the union heavies to slush around in. I don’t believe a single word that comes out of Julia Gillard’s mouth. Hopefully after the next election we won’t need to hear from her again. By the way Miss Gillard’s old boyfriend Mr Wilson said that Miss Gillard knew it was a slush fund she was setting up. But that’s not what she told the commisioners’ office in WA. Our Prime Minister is an angry lady and many in the community are angry too but for different reasons. I live in hope that the next election will not be too far away.

      • Reply December 5, 2012

        ian

        Leila that is so obviously fake, nobody even responded.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    sue

    After calling the PM a crook, he backed off in the house. 15 minutes but no evidence provided and too gutless to apologise.

    and vanessay I agree great day for NDIS but unfortunately the other rubbish was more important to the press. Why are those who will benefit from the NDIS less important than Abbott’s ambition.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Sarah

    I am really sick and tired of the MSM blaming both sides for the standards we see in Question Time. It’s the influence of the Leader of the Opposition and Gillard has every right to defend herself from attacks. I am no fan of Turnbull or Hockey but I sincerely doubt they would ever get as low as Abbott has over the past two several years.

    • Reply November 29, 2012

      Jackie

      And Julia’s conduct has been beyond reproach???
      Tony and Julie have had horrible things slung at them too

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  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Wendy Harmer

    When the Speaker greeted the kids with Diabetes in the gallery and said she hoped for a cure… I was hoping she would say, “for diabetes and also for the appalling standard of debate in this place”.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    AnotherRob

    @Sarah. Well said. I also am sick of the MSM and the ABC feigning their “independence” and “even-handedness ‘ by claiming both sides are at fault. The PM has shown NO interest in initiating the smear and inuendo directed at the LOTO other than to defend herself and her Government. She and the Government continue to persue real policy iniotiatives that benefit Australians while the others persue ONLY fear, mud and falshoods. Tony and his party continue to throw up bile as they have been unable to stop the government and achieve what they think is their “God Given” right to be in power.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    sally

    I agree with those who point out that it has been the opposition who have created the unedifying atmosphere and behaviour the parliament.
    The media have appeared to indulge the same sort of fallacy that has claimed it to be reasonable that the climate change deniers’ arguments deserve equal place in climate change discussions and influence on policies to deal with it.
    There is no equality in either.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Sharon

    Well, thank f$%& that’s over. We all deserve a break from the embarrassing shenanigans of Abbott and Bishop.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Anna

    Gabrielle, I think you make a mistake in suggesting that the vitriol in parliament is due to both leaders seeing themselves one or two seats away from victory or oblivion. The reality is there is a hung parliament or a minority government. The conservatives, and especially Abbott, have never accepted that the Gillard govt. is legitimate. This is what has brought about the vitriol. Of course Gillard is going to defend herself, she is heading a legitimate government. Abbott has brought about the vitriol, by basically trying to defeat her majority, slender though it is. He has done this via vitriol and smear not via presenting an alternative govt. with alternative policies.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Janet G

    Anybody else would have already had a defamation lawsuit against Abbott and Bishop.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Jack Richards

    Well it’s over till 2013. All that build up; all that speculation about question time; all that expectation for a showdown between the heavy-weights; the Championship Belt up for grabs … and it wasn’t even a contest.

    Mr Abbott had his fifteen minutes to nail the lid shut; but the gun misfired, he fumbled with the line open, knocked-on over the line, kicked over the boundary on the full; took a huge air-swing; fell as flat as an anorexic’s chest. The whole thing was a shower in a rain coat; a huge phantom pregnancy and instead of the birth of the messiah, there was just a long and tremulous bass and baritone raspberry tart.

    I watched the whole thing in lewd fascination as he stumbled , stuttered and stammered, seemed so unsure of himself, approached it all with such obvious trepidation that I am sure he did not really believe what he was saying; an ex-boxer who didn’t lay a glove on the bag. Ms Gillard then rained on his parade; gave him a golden shower; washed him out completely. I was hoping for some real blood on the sand; but it just didn’t happen. What a disappointment; what a complete fizzer.

    After that faltering and feeble performance today I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the rumblings on the Coalition backbench take tangible form. Mr Abbott’s approval rating just won’t budge from the negative; the carbon tax beat-up fell over (hottest summer ever in the NH and hit 45.5 in Mildura and Ouyen today i.e. hottest ever November day); Campbell Newman is losing votes in Queensland faster than a drunken sailor spends money; idiots in WA talking about secession; and Malcolm Turnbull winning hearts and minds every time he smirks into the ABC’s cameras.

    The other real loser today was dear sweet Kevvie Rudd. I’ll bet he was eating his liver, hoping Julia would fall on her fountain pen. Looks like he’ll have to cancel the removalist, again, and get the budgie’s cage out of car before it topples from the perch – like his ambitions.

    As Heraclitus once asked: “What is permanent in a changing world?” If I was Mr Abbott, I’d be watching my back over the silly season. And if I was Ms Gillard, I’d be keeping a very close eye on who Kevin-the-leak is talking to.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Joe Parise

    I see 10 comments to this post, and it seems not even one of you care about the members of the AWU. Why is an un-funded NDIS more important than workers being the victim of fraud. We know as fact that Julia Gillard was involved, but to what degree? Why wouldnt you all want some answers? As the Prime Minister she should answer questions put to her by all Australians, she should not chose what and when she will answer. 1)did you witness, with your own eyes, Ralph Blewitt sign the PoA? A simple question that a Prime Minister should answer. I am a union member, a workplace delegate, I loved the union movement but this make it all very smelly indeed.

    • Reply November 29, 2012

      Janet G

      Hi Joe,

      I think the main problem here is that you are conflating the fraud perpetrated by two union members not only upon the union but on Julia Gillard and her legal firm at the time Slater and Gordon, From what I gather the PM was under the impression that she was facilitating a fundraising company for the union, not creating a slush fund for her then partner. Legal firms do this type of thing all of the time in incorporating upon legal advice. To try and conflate the fraud of the Oppositions paid witness and the PM’s former partner is a very long bow and a serious and unsubstantiated accusation.

      However, the media has done a very good job pf facilitating a false claim by the Opposition, hence your outrage..

      • Reply November 30, 2012

        Joe Parise

        Janet, hi. You’re wrong. Gillard has said she did know this was an election fund for Bruce and Ralph, not for the AWU. She has stated this as fact. So was her client the AWU, or Bruce, or Ralph? do you see any conflict of interest here? If she reported she was sleeping with Bruce she would have been moved from the AWU file, she did not want this. She has stated as fact that she new it was not for workplace reform but for re-election, this is a fraud. You should spend less time worrying about who’s ALP or who’s a Lib, this is about fact. Dont worry about who you believe, this is not church, look only at the facts.

        • Reply November 30, 2012

          Janet G

          Hi Joe,

          I am getting my information from the ABC. Where are you getting yours from. As for churches, the only one I belong to is my own. Which one do you belong to?

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Yasmina

    Hey girls, if you want a real laugh, check out the Fat Owl’s blog (aka Piers Akerman) – both “articles” for today. There is much weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the faithful. They are trying to pretend that Abbott “won” today and are consoling each other with the most bitter vetch about Julia Gillard.

    There’s one woman with the nom de guerre of “Caz” who is the biggest crawler and lickspittle of all time. She is so far to the right, the Bitch of Buchenwald would kick her out of the SS for excessive cruelty.

    Caz is an acolyte of the biggest whacko and nut-job in the Australian blogosphere – one John Jay. John claims to have regular one-on-one conversations with none other than God himself.

    I read it every day because it is just so uproariously untruthful and you get to see just how mad the lunatics of the right are. It’s like a free tour through Bedlam.

    But don’t ever try to post anything sane, or challenging the Fat Owl’s bigotry, because he only ever publishes comments that crawl so far up his arse they tickle his tonsils. And yet, he whines loud and long about “freedom of the press” but his great fat thumb is always over the “delete” button if anyone ever disagrees with him, John Jay, or Alan Jones or, heaven forbid, doesn’t believe Tony Abbott is the long awaited Messiah.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      JoanneH

      I heartily agree with you re. Pier’s blog; visiting there is like going to another planet, where being insane is a prerequisite. Although good for a laugh, I find the level and intensity of hate expressed by so many people very scary.
      Once, just for a laugh, I left an over-the-top comment there which I thought would be seen immediately as taking-the-p*ss, but to my surprise it got published, and I received many admiring comments. I wouldn’t however try leaving a critical comment – just in case they tracked me down!

      I notice that Pier’s daughter Pia, is one of the “Australian’ News Ltd. journalists who have been digging up the dirt on Julia for the last few weeks. What a charming family.

      • Reply November 30, 2012

        Yasmina

        @JoanneH – they’re scary alright. You’ve got the ultra-loony religious cranks like John Jay who claims (seriously) that Julia Gillard is a re-incarnated “dark soul” from Atlantis! And she’s actually thousands of years old and he knows this because it was “divinely” revealed to him.

        Then you have the Brownshirt Nazis like Kabul-ture Kid who is always threatening to kick someone’s head in; Paul B who could re-write the “gutter invective” section of the Macquarie; Caz whom I’ve already mentioned; the “Village Idiot Reformed (god only knows what he was liked before his reformation) who rages daily about “socialism” and then admits to be a disability pensioner who is having trouble getting new dentures on Medicare (True! I shit you not!). Then there’s DUDDY DIDDAMS who is so agro he always uses caps for his name; then Paul C who claims to have a PhD but can’t spell or string together a coherent sentence and who also claims to have a very successful business but spends all day, every day, writing nonsensical posts to the Fat Owl! The rest of them all say exactly the same thing, over and over, and try to be the most outraged of the day.

        But of all the chronic and embittered losers in Australia, John Jay is in a class of his own. He is so nuts it is absolutely hilarious. He posts at least a dozen times a day; from very early in the morning till very late at night – every day, every week, every month for years! Apart from being a religious crank of the extreme Branch Davidian or Westboro Baptists kind, he rants constantly about the evils of socialism, the Liberal work ethic and all that – BUT… he doesn’t have a job! He’s been on the dole for years! He is all the things he claims to detest!

        Akerman’s column seems to get hundreds of comments every day – but they’re all from the same dozen or score of misfits, malcontents, losers and functioning psychotics. I doubt any of the regulars have any sort of tertiary educations as few of them can spell, punctuate, or express themselves lucidly. But then, Akerman doesn’t have any formal education either which is quite evident from his writing – so I guess he just publishes posts from people who are even less educated than is he. He has a need to feel 7 feet tall and clever so he hangs around with a bevy of midgets and intellectual feather-weights.

        The funniest thing is how Akerman always publishes the most sycophantic crawls to puff up his bloated ego; things like, “Yet another magnificent article, Piers”, “You are the Saviour of Australia, Piers”, “You are History’s Greatest Journalist, Piers” and other such sickening and foetid swill. And he always humbly aw-shucks and coyly, shyly and modestly thanks whomever for royally kissing his fat arse!

        It really is wonderful comic relief. No-one would ever need to do a send-up, a satire or mock Akerman’s column because it achieves that all by itself. Even the photo of him, the jowly slob imperiously looking down on the world, is an unintentional piece of self-mockery.

        • Reply November 30, 2012

          Yasmina

          I forgot to add that John Jay claimed that Hurricane Sandy that devastated the Caribbean and the USA’s Atlantic Coast was God’s punishment for electing Obama and a warning not to do it again! He claimed that God had revealed this to him during a particularly rigorous prayer session.

          I wept with laughter when I read that. I rolled on the floor and thought my kidneys would fall out. It is all in Akerman’s archives for late October- early- November. Unbelievable! And the Fat Owl publishes it and wonders why no-one gives him any credibility.

        • Reply December 3, 2012

          Poppy

          Wow. This is the first time I’ve read Hoopla. Talk about Conduct Umbecoming. What a nasty piece of work you are Yasmina. What a waste of a pretty name.

    • Reply December 1, 2012

      Leila from ex Communist Russia

      Yasmina dear, you need help. Please get it before you post anymore comments. You do all women a disservice. Please dear, take a rest and see someone. It’s not healthy to carry around so much bile.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Carole/m

    Well Joe it’s amazing how you can be sucked in by the media . From the real info. that I’ve seen unionists did not lose their money.

    ,Apparently the Theiss Co., put funds into this account and refused to take legal action to retrieve their money.

    The PM as she has said over and over, is not guilty of illegal behavior.

    Maybe you should give the PM a bit more credit, she could have ended this garbage earlier but I think she’s used the old ” ROPE A DOPE” routine, you know , let them get right up close ’til they think they’ve got you and then LET ‘EM HAVE IT.

    Or maybe she just wants to give Abbott the “KEATING” and DO HIM SLOWLY.

    I sincerely hope she’s taking legal action against all of the ars…oles who have been falling all over themselves defaming her.
    N

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Paul A

    I can’t understand why Gabrielle wrote “So endeth the not-very-edifying Parliament for 2012.” It has been conspicuous that the Coalition’s (i.e. Abbott’s) tactics have to disrupt Parliment and/or to smear PM Gillard. I thought the PM upheld the banner of truth during question time and the opposition were deceptive. Gabrielle should have written “So endeth the not-very-edifying performance of the opposition leader for another year.”

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Out and about and proud, too.

    Attention all you dykes here with persistent mullerian duct syndrome or androgen insensitivity syndrome. We realise the hrt makes you a bit tetchy but you really should draw it mild. You’re giving XX women a bad name which they don’t deserve.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      Janet G

      Hi Out and About,

      Just a suggestion: When you want an insult to hurt it is best to be coherent. Try a course in literacy or linguistics. It will help with your trolling.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Carole/m

    Tony Abbott was also involved in offering money to Terry Staples In order to stitch Pauline Hanson up and have her sent to jail. The charges against her were later thrown out by a Queensland Chief Justine

    It seems to me he’s just stitched up Julie Bishop ( with her help of course), by not having the guts to conduct the SMEAR himself.

    His HYSTERICAL need to SMEAR & DENIGRATE Julia Gillard has no bounds.

    But of course he’s not a SEXIST or a MISOGYNIST .

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Vivienne

    I’m a swinging voter, I have no real leanings towards any party. I would like the those in parliament – leadership and oppposition to focus on presenting reasonable and accurately costed ways of successfully running the country.

    I find I am put off by any opposition that grabs the media with personal attacks to the party in power and individuals in those parties, such attacks mean nothing to me as a voter. They make you look like you are whinging and sulky. I felt this way when the Liberals were in power and I feel this way now too.

    Attacking people personally makes me suspect that you actually have nothing to offer that would outshine the policies already in place.

    How on earth are you going to win my vote? Be the better party, focus on positives.

    Currently, my only choices are to vote Greens or Independent – you know, people who stand for something.

  • Reply November 29, 2012

    Cliff

    The Libs showed their true colours today. When the bill for the NDIS was introduced there was only about 6 Lib members interested enough to be in the House. I can not be too hard on them as they were probably in their office reading Dear Leader’s new book.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Tony W

    “I’m a swinging voter, I have no real leanings towards any party.”

    Perhaps it would help if you took a short course on the history of Australian politics since Federation. You’ll find the basic ideologies of the major parties have remained relatively consistent over the decades, broadly summed up as Conservatism vs. Progressivism. If you can identify with one or the other of those belief systems you’ll save yourself a lot trouble analysing every individual policy at each election.

    More importantly, you’ll be able to stop wasting your vote on dangerously irrelevant parties which, with a tiny percentage of the Australian vote, usurp governments of both persuasions by exercising power of veto over policy initiatives the majority of Australians support. For example, the Greens blocking Rudd’s CPRS a few years ago. Much of the parliamentary chaos of which you now complain stems directly from that action by the Greens – including the demise of Rudd, the election of Abbott as LOTO at the cost of Turnbull, and two years of bitter divisive debate over the carbon tax – which once again, was forced onto government by the Greens, despite being virtually identical to the CPRS which they’d previously rejected. That little exercise in political grandstanding by the Greens set back action on climate change in this country by 3 years, and led to untold disruption in Australian politics and enormous angst in the community.

    Although I’m a lifetime Labor voter myself I happen to believe that Australian democracy has been well served by both major parties acting as a brake on each other’s excesses.

    Anyway good luck in your political deliberations, you’re one of the 10% of Australians who get to decide every election. I often think the rest of us should be absented from the whole tedious exercise!

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Terri

    a lot of ‘young and naive’ going on here.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      Janet G

      Thankyou Terry. I don’t think I have been referred to as ‘ young’ for many years.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Nareen Young

    Joe Parise you’re not a real person, you’re a troll. The election fund was distinct and separate to AWU members funds, had nothing to do with it. It was an ELECTION FUND. Unionists aren’t people of means, they have to pay for heir election campaigns somehow. This goes to the belief of some people that unions actually have no right to exist, and must be attacked at every opportunity to prove lack of credibility. The problem for them is that other Australians don’t believe that, in fact most believe in fairness at work and understand the role unions play in the community.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      Joe Parise

      Nareen, Gday to you. Why did you need to start with such a nasty and factually wrong statement? Please explain your action… I do not hate unions, I think workplace representation is a necessity. Hence why I volunteer my time as our workplace delegate. It WAS or still IS union Members money, this is fact. The companies that paid the money did so believing it was the AWU, this is why Julia GIllard put the words in the name. Anything that belongs to the AWU, belongs to the members of the AWU, get it yet? This is the fraud. Why did’nt she report to either the AWU or the Police when she found out about the fraud, or even today? Did she witness, with her own eyes, Ralph Blewitt sign the PoA? Now why cant she answer that question, if she always did the right thing she could say, Yes. This issue is not about shutting down unions, this is about right and wrong. It is wrong to lie, steal and cheat, it is confirmed she did at least one of those three, and she is the PM. It is a sad time indeed.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    janet

    I am a swinging voter. I have closely followed politics over the years. My conclusion – Tony Abbott should never by our PM. I will vote for a 3 legged goat before I vote LNP. NDIS and Education legislation introduced and the LNP were not even present. But in full voice parroting the vexatious warblings of Abbott. That says it all

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      Janet G

      “Tony Abbott should never by our PM. I will vote for a 3 legged goat before I vote LNP.”

      Hi Janet, I thought Tony was a three-legged goat :)

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Carole/m

    The Liberal Party and the Nationals would have us all believe that all unionists are scumbags and crooks ; you know, Nurses / Police / Teachers / Health Workers etc.

    THE BACKBONE OF OUR COMMUNITY

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      jonah stiffhausen

      Backbone of our community, or beneficiaries of sheltered workshops? Whatever, they’re all flunkeys of the state, and most of them unnecessary. An appalling drain on the taxpayer and a danger to our liberties.
      Public service jobs are really just another form of welfare.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Norelle

    Big fat waste of OUR time and OUR money.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Julie Wright

    I would vote for Julia Gillard based on Abbott’s performance and his party. Like a rabid pack of dogs, they go after her over something that happened 20 years ago with no evidence or fact. They figure if they keep slinging the mud, the Australian people will start to believe or doubt the PM. Well here is one Australian who sees it for what it is. Just a pack of rabid dogs who don’t give an absolute damn about our country other than themselves, their pay packets and retirement funds. Abbott?? give it up, it has become so bloody boring. Julia? Good on you girl, I’m voting you back in.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Lindy

    It’s not over I just watched Brandis give a drymouthed news conference demanding a judicial inquiry and at last the media seemed to have found some backbone and called him to acount. His main reason was because he is able to read the PM’s mind from 1992 and that even though Blewitt wrote paragraph 2 she was responsible because she submitted it even though I thought that it was established that B lewitt submitted it.Following are we?

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      JoanneH

      Lindy, I too watched the very pompous Brandis trying to flog a dead horse, and impress the media with his extensive legal knowledge. It was a miserable performance as they seemed well prepared, and had him on the back foot after the first question.
      I’m sure the some of the Coalition and their ‘nut-job’ followers would like Julia to sue, so they could keep up the distraction until the election. Brandis was a guest at Michael Smith’s wedding last year, and as Smith is the sacked Shock-Jock who is be-friending Blewitt,(and is dedicated to bringing down Julia down) I think there will see more dirty tricks.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    jonah stiffhausen

    All you Ranga apologists, I suggest you read the Australian for a comprehensive and detailed history of her pecadiloes. She pulled a stroke with a WA regulatory body, facilitating the fraud which later occurred. Standard behaviour for a lawyer, granted, but it is important those in power are held accountable for their behaviour.
    By the way, I was wondering how a 1960s joke about an ex British PM, could possibly be construed as “hate speech”?
    It would appear the tenets of “feminisim” aren’t so insistent when it comes to freedom of expression. Ipso facto, it is a totalitarian ideology. Just saying.
    Seig Hiel!

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      Carole

      “Jonah”, are you seriously suggesting that people should read The Australian to ascertain the truth? As a feminist I welcome your opinion, but if I choose to challenge it, why deny me the right to my opinion by using fatuous insult? Totalitarian ideology anyone?

      • Reply November 30, 2012

        jonah stiffhausen

        Carole, that is exactly what I’m suggesting. The Aus has published documentation – provided by disgruntled ALP time servers, showing exactly what she did and didn’t do. A former partner at the dreadful S&G has done likewise. Why on earth do you think S& G sacked her? (I mean really, getting sacked from a legal firm for dodgy behavour must take some doing) On the one hand she claimed the “Association” wasn’t a Union, and on the other excuses herself for not notifying the AWU because she was dealing with them via boyfriend and bagman!
        The Aust has the best investigative hack in the country in Hedley Thomas. It was his legwork which forced an embarrassing rewrite of the “Royal Commission” whitewash of the Brisbane floods two years ago.
        Guess it all boils down to whether one is credulous enough to accept anodyne bromides from those in power.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    trisha

    wasnt going to comment until Jonah put his bit in……suggesting we go to The Australian for the truth about our Prime Minister! You have got to be joking. I’m not sure I would even seek the truth about cricket in that publication.

    • Reply November 30, 2012

      jonah stiffhausen

      Trisha,
      I agree, if you’re happy to blithely accept what those in authority tell you, and unconcerned about granting them ever increasing powers over your private life, then The Aus is definitely not the paper for you.

      • Reply November 30, 2012

        JoanneH

        Jonah, I agree with Tony Windsor -

        ” I don’t read the Australian- our household still uses Sorbent”

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Caroline B

    Would have liked to hear some reasoned debate on the last sitting day re the anti-gambling measures, NDIS etc rather than this dead non-issue.

    100% agree with those above who have expressed disappointment at the way this is portrayed as both sides tearing at each like rabid dogs – JG isn’t the one slinging mud & has a right to defend herself & call out the liars & distorted info, which she does brilliantly.

    Interesting piece on Crikey the other day – turns out one of the main protagonists behind this whole smear campaign is ex-2UE hack Michael Smith. Yes, the same racist nutter on ‘Go Back to Where You Came From’ who (from memory) advocated towing the asylum-seeker boats back out to sea & dumping them. Yes, the same Michael Smith briefing Julie Bishop before her ‘onslaught’ in parliament the other day. Good to know who the opposition are taking their counsel from…

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Carole/m

    Abbott stated in the Parliament yesterday
    ” It’s not about gender ”

    Of course not, it’s about ;
    Sleaze
    Sneer
    Slur
    & Sexism

    Who needs a Policy?????????????

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    georgia o

    The Abbott contention and innuendos about the Gillard govt lacking “legitimacy” are often passed over without analysis. What is illegitimate about a minority govenrment? The conservatives rule the UK with the support of Clegg’s party. They do not have that vile smear thrown at them. Indeed, around the world numerous countries are governed in this way. Here, the political and legal systems have been adhered to.

    Beware a party so desperate to govern they are prepared to diminish and tarnish the our institutions in this manner. The damage done to society’s very fabric may tip us over into becoming a nation we simply do not wish to become. The degree of harm done by Mr Abbott and his lackies cannot be understated.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Thomas Brookes

    Ex PM Malcolm Fraser, said on New Years Day this year, “Politics in Australia, has become toxic and destructive”.

    Both the LNP and the ALP have spent the entire year, right up until the last sitting day, proving Fraser right.

    The sooner we get rid of Political Parties, the better off this country will be.

    • Reply December 1, 2012

      Fiona

      What’s a slush fund anyway? Can anyone just have one? Do i see a finance guy or a lawyer? It wud b cool. How do they get so much money in them?

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    ro.watson

    We live in testing times.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    Carole/m

    An absolute must read :
    http://www.themonthly.com.au/politicoz/latest

    Re Tony Abbott setting up a ” slush fund”
    in the 90′s to bankroll legal action against ‘
    ‘One Nation’ & his subsequent bankrolling of Terry Sharples action against ‘One Nation’
    & then lying about it on national TV.

    As I said earlier ” ROPE A DOPE”

    Abbott’s got a short memory when it comes to himself,

    Short on memory Short on Character.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    ro.watson

    I,for one, am glad “ONE NATION” got a slip,slop,slap.

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    ro.watson

    But does it make it right?

  • Reply November 30, 2012

    ro.watson

    Uncalled for audio…… I am getting..an audio…”Welcome to Tokyo” The Japanese capital city……welcome to this city…..Japanese culture and innovation….To tranquil natural preserves, this City..”. including “Allied bombing”… Huh?.(with music) and may the Hoopla and other good stuff be with you and yours in this festive season. Summer to-morrow in W.A

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    Ros

    Carole, as I understand the Thiess contribution to the fraud, having handed over the moneis to the AWUWRA it then billed the state government. The money was to pay for workplace safety training provided by Wilson that never happened. There doesn’t appear to be an argument about that. There is evidence that the real purpose of the money was to buy industrial peace, which Wilson promised the state government on Thiess’s behalf, hence they got a lucrative state government construction project. So the taxpayers paid the bribe and then paid again, cost of bribe included in cost of production. But even if the money hadn’t been directly provided by the taxpayer, that is it was from Thiess’s coffers, still the taxpayer got to cover it in the charges for construction from Thiess. And the argument that the corruption didn’t matter because it was Thiess’s seems to me to have the same moral standing as those of my peers in my youth who enjoyed an occasional bit of shoplifting. It wasn’t a crime they argued because all they were doing was relieving some nasty capitalists of a little of their ill gotten gains. But of course what they were actually doing was increasing the price the honest paid for their goods.
    Joe has tried hard to get you to focus on the reaaly appalling message that is being told to the Australian public iby so many of the voices being heard on this, and in particular so many of the Canberra Press Gallery, that a little bit of corruption doesn’t matter if the thieves are well connected and part of the elite crowd, and particularly if thei prosecution of their corruption might damage those whose ideology we approve of.

    So, why should I not cheat on my tax form, or sneak off without leaving my details for the owner of the car that I just dinged in the carpark?

    This clamouring that it is of no consequence (eg Jonathon Green in the Drum) serves to reduce standards across the Australian community, not just because we see our supposedly moral leaders being protected or worse assisted in getting away with it (Thomson having his legal costs paid for by the ALP) but because as an academic whose work includes researching “homo virtuous” points out, it is to our individual detriment to behave honestly when those around us in our society aren’t. When they are leaders in institutions, unions, legal bodies, politicians, media (have to assume the media applies the same standards to their own behaviour as they dismiss as no consequence for those they are advocating for) the message is even more powerful.

    So much for another of Gillard’s great announcements of this year (March) of a National anti-corruption plan for which they want our participation. Where is that at?

    Keep up the good work Joe.

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    sue

    I have read that Wilson had been telling reporters about Blewitt, yet all those reporters camped outside his house and none of them reported on it, even 7.30 that had an exclusive with Wilson. Why?

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    Carole/m

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/

    Article by investigative journalist,
    Margot Kingston.

    “Tony Abbott & his Slushy Character Question”

    In comments at the end of this article Margot offers to answer any questions , part of her response to one question was about the opposition and their tactics.

    ” This is just about the most HORRIBLE, ETHICALLY CORRUPT OPPOSITION TACTIC I’ve ever seen “.

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    Rhoda

    The electorate has 2 slush funds to discuss – his and hers if you like. His involved an act of bastardry. Pauline Hansen went to prison on trumped up charges. It was a despicable act. I didn’t like her politics, wished her off the political scene but a line was crossed. We could have ignored her and it would have all gone away.

    Far as this other slush fund – I haven’t followed closely enough to pronounce but I certainly don’t like the way the opposition has gone about its attack . Even the most casual observer would have to think they’re barking up a tree.

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    Carole/m

    Yasmina , loved your stuff. Very funny.

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    Tony W

    “We could have ignored her and it would have all gone away.”

    Yeah but the Libs saw Pauline Hanson as a political rival and we know how low the Libs will stoop to destroy their political rivals. They’ve been doing it all my adult life, starting with the Dismissal.

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    Liberal voter

    What a pathetic series of biased, one-eyed leftie opinions! Tony Abbott has more integrity in his little finger than Gillard. Socialism does not work, give me self-enterprise any day.

    All the great announcements Gillard has made lately count for nothing – if she gets back in, there will be no money left in the purse and if she doesnt – she couldn’t care less,

  • Reply December 1, 2012

    paul

    over on akertoads blog they are congratulating him on over 1,000 posts on his attack his latest attack on the p.m. and akertoad is lapping it up, basking in his manure of praise.
    they fail to mention it is the same 10 or so idiots doing all the posting.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    sue Bell

    Having read the postings from the bottom up I read the posts by JohnJ Jay and Caz and thought they were hilarious send ups, what horror to realise they are real people and actually believe the rubbish they write. It was much more fun when I thought it was a spoof.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    Tony W

    Yasmina, thanks for the pointer to Piers Ackerman’s blog. You’re so right, JJ is awesome!! I nearly wet myself reading his reply to this comment:

    “There must be SOMEthing that keeps the sad and sorry cabinet dancing to her tune.”

    JJ: “There is and it is on a spiritual level. There is a form of bondage involving dark energy between her and some close to her. This energy has a blinding effect on the consciousness of those caught in it.

    No comparison intended but when Hitler died many in Germany suddenly came out of a sort of spell. I imagine this was because they were caught in his energy .. he left this earth and something released.”

    How good is THAT!! I’ll definitely be following JJ for more gems like this.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    Tony W

    “It was much more fun when I thought it was a spoof.”

    No way sue bell, it’s so much funnier knowing they’re serious! No spoof writer could ever come up with stuff this good, it’s INSPIRED!!!

    • Reply December 2, 2012

      John o Young

      Tony W. If you think John Jay’s recent ravings are doozies, how about this from 26 Nov 2011 in response to an article entitled “Julia, playing with rats…

      “Dear fellow bloggers,
      Recently I presented knowledge given from the Divine. As I explained, at times I go into very, very high states of consciousness to, if it is allowed in Divine Will, receive knowledge concerning things that are occurring in this world.
      Today I have received very, very important information that I will present later tonight.
      All was received from the Divine.
      Yours sincerely,
      John Jay.”

      He then goes on to say, and I am not making this up and you can look it up in Akerman’s archive, and it’s all on the first page of comments:

      “…Gillard is an Atlantean soul (she comes from the Atlantean civilization that was once on this earth – Atlantis through opening to darkness destroyed itself).
      Obama is an Atlantean soul.
      Gillard and Obama knew each other in Atlantis. This is why they were so close when he visited Australia.
      Tony Abbott is not from Atlantis.”

      Can you believe it? And this sort of stuff appears every day. You just couldn’t make it up and it’s beyond any send-up or satire. The surprising thing is that this sort of utter guff and pure piffle gets all sorts of positive feedback and praise!

      I often read the first page of Akerman’s blog comments in the morning because John Jay is always there and always saying something so insanely bizarre that I start the day with aching ribs from laughing so much.

      Like Yasmina said, sometimes I laugh so much it really does feel like my ribs have cracked and my kidneys are going to fall out.

      I just had a quick look at today’s Akerrave and John Jay is there, page.1. as usual, and telling the faithful that , inter alia:

      “Gillard is filled with very low, toxic energy .. this is why she is graceless and so very off-putting.

      Tony Abbott flows with very high energy .. this is why he has grace.

      Back to cults – cults involve a negative energy that cuts out reality.

      This is guided high knowledge. ”

      He’s been talking to God again. Oh dear, I’ll need some more tissues to wipe the tears of laughter from my face.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    Fiona

    OK, I take it just anyone can open a slush fund.Talking to a few friends last night at a bbq. well we decided to open a slush fund called ATOWPRA. Its a great idea anyone want to join? How many people make up a slush fund ? I heard 2 or 5, is that right? We thought we could get regular payments going into the slush fund direct from peoples pays. Has that been tried before? I am so excited we are getting an appointment with a lawyer on monday.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    Fiona

    Hi, its me again. Does anyone know a good lawyer with experience in setting up a slush fund? And also if anyone wants to pay into it with a weekly deduction from their pay or I think we can do centerlink as well. thank you.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    John Jay

    Labor do little well .. but they are very good at lies, spin and manipulation.

    They specialize in spin .. the art of deceit.

    They have a commited army of reality-challenged journalists who will do all they can to pull down the rare soul Tony Abbott.

    Cultism .. and this is what the Left is .. is a very, very powerful force.

    Cultism blinds and can unleash great venom and spite.

    We must never assume the Left will be defeated .. they will fight and fight ..

    Remember, the young have been thoroughly programmed in our schools .. some may not be mentally caught in the Left net but many, many are .. and they will be voting.

    We can hope and pray but must never assume.

    We should flood talkback radio with well prepared messages .. expressed powerfully and quickly because of talkback time constraints.

  • Reply December 2, 2012

    Big Ears lover

    I was so offended by her, that I posted Yasmina’s disgusting rant towards me on page 5 of Piers Akerman’s 2nd last blog before you decided to take it down from here, but not before displaying it for a time though. That person has no class at all, and she called herself sophisticated? Feel free to display or publish anything I write, as I may have this abuse of hers published.

    • Reply December 2, 2012

      Wendy Harmer

      I must say, I am dismayed at the turn this debate has taken – I have taken down numerous posts that are inflammatory and insulting. As of now, comments on this story are closed. Thank you.

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