• @sue elliott, no one is asking for a leg up, what we are asking for is an even playing field. We are asking men to take their feet off women's heads as they try to climb ladders alongside their male counterparts. You say sometimes women can be their own worst enemies, yes you are right, and you've just proved why with your comment. - Sharon
  • lets not forget that overcoming ' infedels' IS part of the Islamic ideology - melissa
  • These men wanted this to go all around the world, they have achieved what they wanted the best thing to stop this, is to stop showing the pictures in the media. I did not watch this segment in the News tonight. They encouraged people to film this. So why are the media showing this. They got what they wanted. The publicity. So will others copy so they can also get on the News. Stop giving things like this airtime and showing the pictures. - suz
  • My first thought was 'insane'. People who head into extremism of this sort just seem to lose any sense of reality, and will come up with any excuse/reason/cause to convince themselves there is a reason for their behaviour that allows them to absolve themselves of blame. IMHO they enjoy it. Nobody who is thinking normally heads out with a knife a cleaver and an axe for the bones, to kill someone randomly on the street. Even 'he was a soldier therefore he killed Muslims in Afghanistan' is screwy. He may never have been there or killed anyone. Poor man, poor family. Re theAussie aboriginals: As an older aboriginal man once said to me "Some country was going to come and take this country. I'm glad it was the English". The Australia existing before white man was inevitably going to end. It was just a matter of when, who and how. It's now up to us all, of any colour and creed to make it work for us all. - Gracie123
  • While I wouldn't do botox I have had "cosmetic" surgery. Absolutely would do the same procedure again if I felt the need but hopefully the boobs won't get that big again :) As to wrinkles, m'eh, I'm 50 & I reckon I look fine for my age. - Liz
  • Gee is having a fine old time stirring the pot on Hoopla today! No woman wants a"leg up". No woman wants anything more than true equality. It's not that hard. It means that irrespective of gender, everyone is judged on their merits. Think we can do it? - Nel Matheson
  • I don't understand how respect is assigned only because of skill levels?! and gaps in skills levels? What ever happened to the KISS principle. When it comes to equality, inclusion, and respect - as members of the human race, we all bring different qualities and attributes and stories to the table. An appreciation/respect for everyone's difference (including gender) should go without saying. - maria t.
  • What an appalling tragedy. It is so hard to imagine the minds of these men. It is devastating for the young soldier and his family. Acts of random violence do absolutely nothing to further the cause of peaceful resolution, ever. Actions such as this only serve to foster fear, distrust and anger. Nothing good can come of it. So very very sad. The comments that have been made reflect this. We need to be mindful of how these individual horrendous deeds can divide us and lead us into making generalised remarks that are hurtful and thoughtless. My thoughts are with the young soldiers family. - Nel Matheson
  • Misogyny is hating women, it is not a theory, but a state of mind. Sexisim is discrimination of either men or women. Just ask a male nurse or school teacher about sexism. This last little trite 'sound bite' irritated me about as much as the rest of the nonsense. I don't think women should be given a leg up just because they are women. People don't deserve respect because they hold a particular position. Position and respect definitely need to be earned. Sometimes I reckon women are our own worst enemies. All this introspection and navel gazing and blame laying and name calling is a waste of energy. Come on girls. Just get on with it. - sue elliott
  • Just for once I would like Gee to say what it is about Emily's List that she/he finds so offensive. Emily stands for early money is like yeast, it means that support and money are given to women at the start of their political careers to help them win preselection and to win relatively unwinable seats. Men entering in to politics usually have both large amounts of money and mentoring behind them. We see this clearly in local council elections where inevitably, large bill boards are erected by real estate agents and male orientated business organisations to support male candidates while women usually have no money and rely on friends to hand out leaflets. Women who are supported by Emily's List are supporters of feminism, those that I have met are hard working, intelligent and thoughtful and have a common ideology about the rights of women. So Gee what the hell is wrong with women supporting women when the system of preselection and electioneering is so biased against them. No rhetoric please just a straight answer for your obvious hatred, is it the support for abortion rights that you hate so much or is it just women playing a role in all aspects of society. - sue Bell

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