Ellen, please do not forget Lang Hancock was a right bastard. He wanted to use nuclear bombs to mine in the reefs off W.A. he got his land but never, ever wanted Aboriginal rights and ownership recognised. He made his money through this theft of Aboriginal lands. He was an horrific, greedy, cruel man far to the right of Genghis Khan. No I never met him, but I have read the history, seen the reports, read the media.
How dare you insult every reader of Hoopla implying none of us have worked to secure our future, that we are lazy and sit around all day complaining. So self funded retirees are a better class of people to the rest of the common swill. I think you will find Hooplarians have worked for years, many have struggled to survive, many have raised children and cared for others in their communities. What have you done? I hope I never meet you and note I am making my judgement about you from your own writings. I find you wanting as a human being. - sue bell
This is high-horse bullshit. She is not our moral guardian. As Billy Connolly would say. - RhodaD
"Question authority" short enough for a badge and quite big enough for reason, gut instinct and intuition? - ro.watson
I am not an expert on mining matters so I am only reporting what I have read.
Last year an Australia Institute report by economist Matt Grudnoff estimated that mining companies were receiving $4.5 billion in govt support including tax concessions.
Mining companies receive all manner of deductions according to the report, including deductions for exploration and prospecting costs and capital works expenditure.
While it seems you are correct that companies are providing for their own infrastructure, this is only in part. According to the report the Federal Government also contributes to the cost of providing rail and port infrastructure.
No doubt mining companies will put their own spin on what they receive from taxpayers, but receive they do. Handsomely.
I am not being critical of that because I am pretty ignorant about the reasons why we fork out so much to miners. I just think it is a bit rich for magnate Rinehart to then drone on about Australia's welfare state. - Dianne
Dianne, admittedly this is straying from the topic, but in the main the mining companies pay for and build their own roads, airports, ports, rail lines etc.
There has been Government money directly injected in the early days (1950s in the Pilbara), but a lot of the newest infrastructure is the miners themselves.
If you want to get really upset about hand outs to big business look no further than the MRRT devised by Ms Gillard and Mr Swan. They agreed to let the miners value the replacement value of all of their infrastructure assets at 2010 prices and then depreciate that against their MRRT liability. In many cases the Government ends up paying the miners. - Alistair
Just stop peddling nonsense about women... let us be truly representative first. Why not women who are truly diverse. Can we please stand for ourselves and not be represented? I'm woman, carer, mother, community worker, student, friend, sister, aunt and of migrant background who has 'voice' and can speak for herself - Caroline
Oh, ellen! You say we shouldn't judge Ms Rinehart if we haven't met her, yet she is judging people on welfare and I bet she hasn't met any of them!
You are quick to judge people who comment here...telling them to "get off their bums and do some real work" Really, ellen, have you actually met any of us? Do you actually know anything about our personal circumstances? Why do you assume that anyone who criticizes Ms Rinehart must be welfare dependent? - Annem
Ellen - no doubt Ms Rinehart works hard but that does not mean that she has not been assisted by you and I. The mining industry receives a great deal in financial subsidies.
Mining companies prosper because Australia has a well-trained workforce which is also fit because of our health system.
Their trucks drive on well paved roads paid for by you and I and their ships leave from well-equipped ports.
I don't agree with cracks about her weight but neither should she be held up as a beacon of wisdom.
By the way I have just learnt that she has moved to the tax haven of Singapore. - Dianne
Anyone interested - Getup currently has a campaign to protest against Newman Govt in Qld introducing ID laws - so voters will have to show formal ID.
The video on their website explains that many indigenous, elderly & young voters do not have formal ID so may be excluded from voting. (Guess they aren't the demographic LNP are worried about anyway.)
Newman Govt has a history of acting (including changing legislation) without consultation then dealing with the consequences - so it is good to voice concern early & often.. - janes
how many of you who sit here making anonymous and for the most part vitriolic comments have met the woman. perhaps had you done so you might have a different view. we only know what the media reports. no matter what interview she gives she always comes off looking bad.
her working hours a lot longer than yours. she doesnt sit around counting her money she is in the office making sure it grows. her father taught her well.
why is it its the vocal minority who seem to have all the answers. the ones with money are not sitting here moaning they don't even give you a thought.
I can sit here as we are self funded retirees who are still paying tax. how many of your are going to be able to do that.
get off your bums and do some real work and reap the benefits of that hard work.
you who have inherited know how hard it is to keep it.
are some of you a little jealous or just naive. wouldn't you have liked to inherit her fortune. - ellen